Apr 18, 2015 17:31
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Spanish term
United States
en su causa
Spanish to English
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Law: Contract(s)
La ley contempla la celebraclon de contratos de trabajo de alta direccion, slernpre y cuando este en su causa el ejerclclo, por el trabajador, de poderes inherentes a la titularidad juridica de la empresa y relativos a los objetivos generales de la mlsma . . .
from a Spanish contrato de trabajo
from a Spanish contrato de trabajo
Proposed translations
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| 5 +1 | (whenever) their purpose is.... |
Billh
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| 5 | his/her remit includes |
Jennifer Levey
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| 3 -1 | particularly in the case of |
TechLawDC
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Proposed translations
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(whenever) their purpose is....
causa is hard to translate in legal terms. It is akin to but not the same as consideration. Purpose is the best word here
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-04-18 18:59:35 GMT)
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maybe better to say here
(whenever) their purpose includes...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-04-18 20:05:04 GMT)
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Causa del contrato es el fin objetivo e inmediato que persiguen las partes al contratar, fin querido y ordenado por el ordenamiento jurídico. La causa del contrato de trabajo es distinta para el empresario y trabajador. Para el empresario la causa es la obtención de los frutos o utilidad de la actividad del trabajador; en tanto que para éste es la obtención de la remuneración correspondiente al servicio que realiza.
La función de cambio trabajo - salario es la causa del contrato de trabajo.
La causa o fin perseguido por las partes debe ser lícito.
Cabe también la expresión de una falsa causa en el contrato, lo que nos lleva a la simulación del contrato.
Si la causa aparente del contrato camufla una real prestación de servicios laborales, cualquiera que sea la denominación que las partes le hayan dado, el contrato será de trabajo con todas sus consecuencias. Si, por el contrario, el contrato aparente es de trabajo y no lo es realmente, el contrato es nulo, por falta de causa.
http://www.elergonomista.com/tra80.html
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maybe better to say here
(whenever) their purpose includes...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-04-18 20:05:04 GMT)
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Causa del contrato es el fin objetivo e inmediato que persiguen las partes al contratar, fin querido y ordenado por el ordenamiento jurídico. La causa del contrato de trabajo es distinta para el empresario y trabajador. Para el empresario la causa es la obtención de los frutos o utilidad de la actividad del trabajador; en tanto que para éste es la obtención de la remuneración correspondiente al servicio que realiza.
La función de cambio trabajo - salario es la causa del contrato de trabajo.
La causa o fin perseguido por las partes debe ser lícito.
Cabe también la expresión de una falsa causa en el contrato, lo que nos lleva a la simulación del contrato.
Si la causa aparente del contrato camufla una real prestación de servicios laborales, cualquiera que sea la denominación que las partes le hayan dado, el contrato será de trabajo con todas sus consecuencias. Si, por el contrario, el contrato aparente es de trabajo y no lo es realmente, el contrato es nulo, por falta de causa.
http://www.elergonomista.com/tra80.html
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Spanish term (edited):
siempre y en su causa
particularly in the case of
La ley contempla la celebraclon de contratos de trabajo de alta direccion, siempre y cuando este en su causa el ejercicio, por el trabajador, de poderes inherentes a la titularidad juridica de la empresa y relativos a los objetivos generales de la misma. =
The law contemplates conclusion of employment contracts for members of top management, particularly in the case of exercise by the employee of powers inherent in the legal ownership of the company and relating to the [(formally stated)] general objectives of the company.
The law contemplates conclusion of employment contracts for members of top management, particularly in the case of exercise by the employee of powers inherent in the legal ownership of the company and relating to the [(formally stated)] general objectives of the company.
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer Levey
: 'siempre y cuando' does not equate to 'particularly'//And if you correct that error, your entire translation proposal falls apart. // 'neutral' --> straightforward 'disagree'.
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I agree. I took it from context, and familiarity with similar texts in English. Sometimes common sense dictates a minor rewriting of the author's text.
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Jennifer Levey
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his/her remit includes
estÉ en su causa el ejerclclo, por el trabajador, de poderes inherentes a
--> (for example)
the employee's remit includes the exercise of powers/responsabilities relating to ...
remit noun - definition in the Business English Dictionary ...
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/remit_1
Her appointment to the board comes with a remit to focus on its corporate social responsibility. a narrow/wide remithave a/no remit to do sth The Commission ...
remit - definition of remit by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/remit
7. the area of authority or responsibility of an individual or a group: by taking that action, the committee has exceeded its remit. 8. (Law) law the transfer of a case ...
Remittance - Remit to - Remittee - Remit
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Note added at 3 hrs (2015-04-18 21:02:21 GMT)
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Responding to TechLawDC's 'neutral' comment below:
Google search for his remit Obama in the firm expectation that, having included a well-known US personality's name, the results will be biased towards US sources.
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About 5,920,000 results (0.48 seconds)
Search Results
Leadership: A Critical Introduction - Page 42 - Google Books Result
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Elesa Zehndorfer - 2013 - Business & Economics
Background Barack Obama was 3 years old when his parents divorced. ... Whilst fundraising was not CASE STUDY 2 part of his official remit, Obama raised a ...
The Global Obama: Crossroads of Leadership in the 21st Century
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1134496257
Dinesh Sharma, Uwe P. Gielen - 2013 - Psychology
Equally disappointing is the fact that the respect Obama expressed toward ... to Egypt whose public comments suggested his remit was to save Mubarak, not to ...
Obama faces new immigration challenge after 17 states file ...
www.christiantoday.com/article/obama.faces.new...after.../4...
Dec 5, 2014 - US President Barack Obama faces a federal lawsuit after 17 states filed a ... He claimed Obama had overstepped his remit of enforcing laws as ...
Obama's Time: A History - Google Books Result
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=0199383391
Morton Keller - 2014 - History
What the surviving key advisers—most notably, Jarrett, Geithner (like Obama, raised ... Its remit was to consolidate and direct the government's response to ...
Double Down: Game Change 2012 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1101638702
Mark Halperin, John Heilemann - 2013 - Political Science
Obama's approach to his White House overhaul was shot through with such ... His remit was, in effect, to function as the chief strategist for both the White House ...
Double Down: Game Change 2012 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.cl/books?id=Vh8dCAAAQBAJ
80% DISCOUNT - 2013
building as well as within it, Obama left her role untouched. Rouse ... His remit was, in effect, to function as the chief strategist for both the White House and the ...
Did you vote for Obama? | Somerville | Yelp
www.yelp.com/topic/somerville-did-you-vote-for-obama
If so, how would you rate your satisfaction so far. Very Satisfied, Somewhat Satisfied, Satisfied, Somewhat Disappointed, Very Disappointed. I voted for Obama ...
Barack Obama and the Myth of a Post-Racial America
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1135080526
Mark Ledwidge, Kevern Verney, Inderjeet Parmar - 2013 - Political Science
... pit bull in the campaign allowed her a more flexible remit to respond to Obama. ... The focal point of division about race and Obama's personal life was his past ...
Global Crises and the Crisis of Global Leadership
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1139503642
Stephen Gill - 2011 - Political Science
Indeed, Obama had already written two memoirs before his election, establishing a particularly personal, autobiographical foundation for his remit in public office ...
Demonizing a President: The "Foreignization" of Barack Obama
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1440830568
Martin A. Parlett - 2014 - Political Science
... to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan on the grounds of Obama's ... not relevant to the objection to his orders or to the remit of the military court.
etc. etc. etc.
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--> (for example)
the employee's remit includes the exercise of powers/responsabilities relating to ...
remit noun - definition in the Business English Dictionary ...
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/business-english/remit_1
Her appointment to the board comes with a remit to focus on its corporate social responsibility. a narrow/wide remithave a/no remit to do sth The Commission ...
remit - definition of remit by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/remit
7. the area of authority or responsibility of an individual or a group: by taking that action, the committee has exceeded its remit. 8. (Law) law the transfer of a case ...
Remittance - Remit to - Remittee - Remit
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Note added at 3 hrs (2015-04-18 21:02:21 GMT)
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Responding to TechLawDC's 'neutral' comment below:
Google search for his remit Obama in the firm expectation that, having included a well-known US personality's name, the results will be biased towards US sources.
***************************
About 5,920,000 results (0.48 seconds)
Search Results
Leadership: A Critical Introduction - Page 42 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=131797574X
Elesa Zehndorfer - 2013 - Business & Economics
Background Barack Obama was 3 years old when his parents divorced. ... Whilst fundraising was not CASE STUDY 2 part of his official remit, Obama raised a ...
The Global Obama: Crossroads of Leadership in the 21st Century
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1134496257
Dinesh Sharma, Uwe P. Gielen - 2013 - Psychology
Equally disappointing is the fact that the respect Obama expressed toward ... to Egypt whose public comments suggested his remit was to save Mubarak, not to ...
Obama faces new immigration challenge after 17 states file ...
www.christiantoday.com/article/obama.faces.new...after.../4...
Dec 5, 2014 - US President Barack Obama faces a federal lawsuit after 17 states filed a ... He claimed Obama had overstepped his remit of enforcing laws as ...
Obama's Time: A History - Google Books Result
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=0199383391
Morton Keller - 2014 - History
What the surviving key advisers—most notably, Jarrett, Geithner (like Obama, raised ... Its remit was to consolidate and direct the government's response to ...
Double Down: Game Change 2012 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1101638702
Mark Halperin, John Heilemann - 2013 - Political Science
Obama's approach to his White House overhaul was shot through with such ... His remit was, in effect, to function as the chief strategist for both the White House ...
Double Down: Game Change 2012 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.cl/books?id=Vh8dCAAAQBAJ
80% DISCOUNT - 2013
building as well as within it, Obama left her role untouched. Rouse ... His remit was, in effect, to function as the chief strategist for both the White House and the ...
Did you vote for Obama? | Somerville | Yelp
www.yelp.com/topic/somerville-did-you-vote-for-obama
If so, how would you rate your satisfaction so far. Very Satisfied, Somewhat Satisfied, Satisfied, Somewhat Disappointed, Very Disappointed. I voted for Obama ...
Barack Obama and the Myth of a Post-Racial America
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1135080526
Mark Ledwidge, Kevern Verney, Inderjeet Parmar - 2013 - Political Science
... pit bull in the campaign allowed her a more flexible remit to respond to Obama. ... The focal point of division about race and Obama's personal life was his past ...
Global Crises and the Crisis of Global Leadership
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1139503642
Stephen Gill - 2011 - Political Science
Indeed, Obama had already written two memoirs before his election, establishing a particularly personal, autobiographical foundation for his remit in public office ...
Demonizing a President: The "Foreignization" of Barack Obama
https://books.google.cl/books?isbn=1440830568
Martin A. Parlett - 2014 - Political Science
... to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan on the grounds of Obama's ... not relevant to the objection to his orders or to the remit of the military court.
etc. etc. etc.
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Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
TechLawDC
: "remit" is almost unheard of, at least in USA English. (Evidently Answerer wishes to cite 10 U.K. English references to support his point -- to no avail.)
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Does Asker want US English? Even if US-ers don't use 'remit', they surely understand the word, don't they? In the ROW, I've no doubt it's the 'best fit' in Asker's context. // 10? - 5,920,000 (and counting...) :)
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