Jul 25, 2013 07:04
10 yrs ago
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Spanish term
salvo catástrofe
Spanish to English
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Consentimiento Informado
Se trata de un Consentimiento Informado para el mantenimiento de muestras crioconservadas. Me gustaría encontrar una palabra más neutra para catástrofe en inglés.
"Finalmente, he sido informado de la ausencia de riesgos por el hecho de su crioconservación (congelación) (salvo catástrofe u otras causas ajenas a este centro)"
Catastrophe me suena a fenómeno meteorológico.
Gracias por vuestras aportaciones!
"Finalmente, he sido informado de la ausencia de riesgos por el hecho de su crioconservación (congelación) (salvo catástrofe u otras causas ajenas a este centro)"
Catastrophe me suena a fenómeno meteorológico.
Gracias por vuestras aportaciones!
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(apart from catastrophe and other causes not attributable to this centre)
catastrophe is very commonly used in this sort of context.
eg
Definition of 'Catastrophe Insurance'
Insurance to protect businesses and residences against natural disasters such as earthquakes, floods and hurricanes, and against man-made disasters such as terrorist attacks. These low-probability, high-cost events are generally excluded from standard hazard insurance policies, and so catastrophe insurance is required.
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In Spanish the definition is similar, eg
Una catástrofe es cualquier suceso inesperado, ya sea a causa de la naturaleza (catástrofe natural) como por obra del hombre (una guerra o un atentado terrorista), cuyas manifestaciones en forma de daños materiales y/o personales son de magnitudes enormes.
Estas catástrofes se conocen con el término “fuerza mayor”, y están incluidas en todos los contratos de seguros en forma de exclusiones de la obligación de la compañía aseguradora de indemnizar si ocurren. El argumento, entendible, de este tipo de exclusión de la obligación de indemnizar es el impacto económico que generaría en su patrimonio el tener que restaurar todo el daño que la catástrofe hubiera causado en los bienes y las personas.
El Consorcio de Compensación de Seguros es el organismo de la administración que hace frente, limitadamente a estos daños producidos por las catástrofes.
http://www.consumoteca.com/economia-familiar/seguros/catastr...
In short, in both languages catastrophe is similarly defined and to depart from it would not in my view be a correct translation.
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Definition of 'Catastrophe Insurance'
Insurance to protect businesses and residences against natural disasters such as earthquakes, floods and hurricanes, and against man-made disasters such as terrorist attacks. These low-probability, high-cost events are generally excluded from standard hazard insurance policies, and so catastrophe insurance is required.
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In Spanish the definition is similar, eg
Una catástrofe es cualquier suceso inesperado, ya sea a causa de la naturaleza (catástrofe natural) como por obra del hombre (una guerra o un atentado terrorista), cuyas manifestaciones en forma de daños materiales y/o personales son de magnitudes enormes.
Estas catástrofes se conocen con el término “fuerza mayor”, y están incluidas en todos los contratos de seguros en forma de exclusiones de la obligación de la compañía aseguradora de indemnizar si ocurren. El argumento, entendible, de este tipo de exclusión de la obligación de indemnizar es el impacto económico que generaría en su patrimonio el tener que restaurar todo el daño que la catástrofe hubiera causado en los bienes y las personas.
El Consorcio de Compensación de Seguros es el organismo de la administración que hace frente, limitadamente a estos daños producidos por las catástrofes.
http://www.consumoteca.com/economia-familiar/seguros/catastr...
In short, in both languages catastrophe is similarly defined and to depart from it would not in my view be a correct translation.
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Gordon Byron
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disaster
used in Insurance industry
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Insurance policies mention "Hurricane, "Flood" etc.
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Insurance policies mention "Hurricane, "Flood" etc.
Example sentence:
"It was an unforeseen disaster"
"disaster management strategies must be developed..."
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Patricia González Schütz
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exept for calamity
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"ecxept", so sorry for error, ate up my "c"!!
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"except"...not my day!
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"which will provide security to the structure and/or contents of your home against unforeseen calamities"
http://www.icicibank.com/Personal-Banking/insurance/general-...
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"ecxept", so sorry for error, ate up my "c"!!
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"except"...not my day!
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"which will provide security to the structure and/or contents of your home against unforeseen calamities"
http://www.icicibank.com/Personal-Banking/insurance/general-...
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AllegroTrans
: Not the term generally used in legal context, despite your reference
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John Cutler
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see sentence below
I'd say it like this...
Except in cases of force majeure or those beyond the control of this center.
Force majeure being defined as:
Force majeure risk - The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/Force majeure risk
Noun, 1. force majeure - a natural and unavoidable catastrophe that interrupts the expected course of events; "he discovered that his house was not insured ...
Force Majeure Definition | Investopedia
www.investopedia.com/terms/f/forcemajeure.asp
A force majeure is derived from the French term meaning "greater force" and refers to any natural and unavoidable catastrophe. A force majeure clause is ...
Except in cases of force majeure or those beyond the control of this center.
Force majeure being defined as:
Force majeure risk - The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/Force majeure risk
Noun, 1. force majeure - a natural and unavoidable catastrophe that interrupts the expected course of events; "he discovered that his house was not insured ...
Force Majeure Definition | Investopedia
www.investopedia.com/terms/f/forcemajeure.asp
A force majeure is derived from the French term meaning "greater force" and refers to any natural and unavoidable catastrophe. A force majeure clause is ...
Peer comment(s):
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Sandro Tomasi
: De acuerdo ... “force majeure,” y Black’s define: An event or effect that can be neither anticipated nor controlled. The term includes both acts of nature (floods and hurricanes) and acts of people (riots, strikes, and wars).
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AllegroTrans
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Richard Hill
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Yvonne Gallagher
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Giovanni Rengifo
: "except in cases of force majeure", as you suggest, is actually the kind of language I'd expect to use in a legal document. You nailed it!
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except for unforseen circumstances
To avoid the idea of catastrophe.
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except for events or circumstances beyond the control of this center/centre
I like John's suggestion of 'force majeure' except that 'fuerza major' exists in Spanish and they have chosen not to use it. Although 'events' and 'circumstances' can refer to positive or negative happenings, when used in this way, the meaning is always negative.
11. Events Beyond Control.
Under no circumstances shall Kabbage be held liable for any delay or failure in this Website and/or any of the Services and/or information on the Website directly or indirectly resulting from, arising out of, relating to or in connection with events beyond the reasonable control of Kabbage
https://www.kabbage.com/company/terms-of-use
Circumstances and events beyond our control shall also be deemed to include any disruptions to our production operations and obstructions due to transportation restrictions and impediments.
http://www.unit-parktech.com/downloads/AGB_UNIT_eng.pdf
11. Events Beyond Control.
Under no circumstances shall Kabbage be held liable for any delay or failure in this Website and/or any of the Services and/or information on the Website directly or indirectly resulting from, arising out of, relating to or in connection with events beyond the reasonable control of Kabbage
https://www.kabbage.com/company/terms-of-use
Circumstances and events beyond our control shall also be deemed to include any disruptions to our production operations and obstructions due to transportation restrictions and impediments.
http://www.unit-parktech.com/downloads/AGB_UNIT_eng.pdf
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Ronaldo Bassini
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barring a catastrophe/some catastrophic event
The word "barring" is very often used in this context
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: any unforseen event is (in both Spanish & French) a catástrofe/catsatrophe: my inclination here is to think this is referring to force majeure, which includes for ex. power outages// because it can be a false friend
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I disagree, not every unforseen event is a catastrophe. Why change that word, as it is clearly used in the original text?
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Giovanni Rengifo
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except in the event of acts of God
If they're referring to natural disasters, you may want to consider this kind of wording, which is very commonly used in contracts.
Alternatively, you could use "force majeure" if they're referring to events such as wars, riots, etc.
Alternatively, you could use "force majeure" if they're referring to events such as wars, riots, etc.
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Manuel Aburto
: Sorry Giovanni I didn't see your response.
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AllegroTrans
: I tend to think they are also referring to man-made unforseen events such as power outages
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except in case of force majeure
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Force Majeure
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The term force majeure relates to the law of insurance and is frequently used in construction contracts to protect the parties in the event that a segment of the contract cannot be performed due to causes that are outside the control of the parties, such as natural disasters, that could not be evaded through the exercise of due care.
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...used in a more legal context..
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The term force majeure relates to the law of insurance and is frequently used in construction contracts to protect the parties in the event that a segment of the contract cannot be performed due to causes that are outside the control of the parties, such as natural disasters, that could not be evaded through the exercise of due care.
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...used in a more legal context..
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Sandro Tomasi
: Giovanni already entered this answer (as an alternative). // Actually, I see that John was first.
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You're right Sandro!
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