Mar 10, 2013 06:41
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rates of species turnover are constant

English to Russian Science Mathematics & Statistics фитоценология
Затрудняюсь перевести выражение: "rates of species turnover are constant". Контекст ниже

Concerning the end of axis compression problem, they also question the assumption that rates of species turnover are constant or even along gradients and axes and that all species can be treated equally. Also, Wartenberg et al. (1987) and Minchin (1987a) pointed out that the detrending and flattening of the arch may result in loss of ecological information if some of the arch form represents a real pattern in the original data.

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Dmitriy Vysotskyy Mar 10, 2013:
Г-н Васильев! А собственно в чем заключается Ваше затруднение? В переводе species turnover? Определения на русском имеются, в т. ч. приведенное ниже. Может быть, точнее будет написать не показатели (меры) бета-разнообразия, а их значения.
vasilev (asker) Mar 10, 2013:
расширяю контекст Wartenberg et al. (1987: p. 438) commented on the manner in which DCA has been adopted rather uncritically by plant ecologists, and they argued that there is 'no empirical justification for the method, since the DCA model is not consistent with the structure of the data... and ... there is no theoretical justification for the method, since DCA is, as Hill and Gauch (1980) point out, an ad hoc adjustment of CA/RA.' In relation to the 'arch effect', the position of points on the first axis is not changed, and all DCA does is to flatten the arch on the original plot. They continued '.. .This deception does not enhance our understanding of the data or help to identify the cause of the observed distortion' (p. 435). Concerning the end of axis compression problem, they also question the assumption that rates of species turnover are constant or even along gradients and axes and that all species can be treated equally. Also, Wartenberg et al. (1987) and Minchin (1987a) pointed out that the detrending and flattening of the arch may result in loss of ecological information if some of the arch form represents a real pattern in the original data.

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English term (edited): Затрудняюсь перевести выражение: "rates of species turnover are constant"
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Как вариант "постоянные показатели изменения видового разнообразия" (вдоль средового градиента).

Речь, по-видимому, идет о бета-биоразнообразии Уиттекера - степени различия или сходства местообитаний с точки зрения их видового состава и/или обилия видов.

β diversity was originally introduced by Whittaker to describe changes in species composition and abundance across environmental continua such as gradients, elevation and moisture (1956). According to Whittaker, each plant species exhibited an individualistic response to environmental conditions. β diversity was then thought of as the change in the number of species from one place to another place along a gradient (1956, 1960), and later defined as “species turnover” or changes in specie composition from one community to another (1972). β diversity was incorporated into the ecological language to mean a change in species composition/abundance along a gradient and across different sites.

http://userwww.sfsu.edu/efc/classes/biol710/similarity/Simil...

Русские ресурсы о бета-разннобразии:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Биоразнообразие

http://www.nature.air.ru/biodiversity/book3_1.html

http://biodat.ru/vart/doc/gef/book21.html
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β разнообразие является постоянным

"β diversity" seems well-established - see e.g. https://www.google.com/search?as_q=&as_epq=β разнообразия.

So just say it's constant? And give some references.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2013-03-10 12:39:29 GMT)
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I agree, they are talking about axis compression. But wasn't your question about changes in specie composition? A colleague of min calls this a "walk through phase-space" (but that doesn't answer your question!).
Note from asker:
В данном куске текста речь совсем не идет о каком-то разнообразии видов или сообществ, а о поведении видов в поле осей непрямой ординации и интерпритации ординационной диаграммы.
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