Jan 25, 2013 17:07
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French term

sous vide d'air

Non-PRO French to English Tech/Engineering Engineering: Industrial
this is a piece of fire-fighting equipment in a list:

système d’extinction automatique sous vide d’air

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Jan 26, 2013 10:13: Cetacea changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

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Non-PRO (3): Ronald van Riet, philgoddard, Cetacea

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Discussion

Tony M Jan 27, 2013:
Surely... ...this is just an automatic vaccuum-operated system — like the 'air' brakes on a lorry or train (which are in fact vacuum brakes); vacuum systems are often used where a system must be fail-safe — i.e. any loss of vacuum for whatever reason causes it to operate. I suspect the 'vacuum' goes with the 'automatic' part, rather then the 'extinguishing'.
chris collister Jan 25, 2013:
Not being an expert in firefighting, this contraption or system seems rather startling. Surely no-one is suggesting removing all the air from a burning building? It would have to be rather strong to withstand atmospheric pressure. "Sous vide d'air" is in itself an odd phrase, in the sense that not just removal of air, but any physical substance, will result in a vacuum. Is it possible that it means that the air is replaced/displaced by some other inert gas?
Any information from fire experts out there would be very interesting.

Proposed translations

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under a vacuum

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Ils éliminent sous vide l'air résiduel et garantissent ainsi un fonctionnement stable de la machine et des paramètres de qualité constants. vegaswing.com
Under vacuum they remove the residual air and ensure steady machine operation and constant quality parameters.
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : Maybe "automatic vacuum extinguisher system" would be better.
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ok Phil and nice and techie :) greetings from Buenos Aires :)
agree narasimha (X) : under vaccum
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agree Sanjay Kesharwani : philgoddard is right.
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agree Cetacea : with Phil as well.
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neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : The "vacuum" idea needs to precede the noun as Phi suggests. The article needs to be dropped in British English, as it reads as though something is being placed under a Hoover. In BE, either "vacuum" before the noun or "in a vacuum" rather than "under".
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automatic air driven fire extinguisher

I think this refers to a fire extinguisher where the agent (foam or dry powder for example) is driven by pressurized air. I have never heard of a system that works using a vacuum. It would be too limited in capacity.
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under lack of a'r

Imho

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Note added at 8 hrs (2013-01-26 01:21:31 GMT)
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Please take it as "Under lack of air" Thanks.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Kim Metzger : "lack of" doesn't work as a technical term in this context.
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disagree Cetacea : That is not the term used, nor is there any such equipment.
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vacuum

Howabout "vacuum fire-fighting" equipment, apparatus, tank, engine, whatever?

You do quite often see "sous vide d'air" although more often than not just "sous vide".


See reference post below.

I suspect it is something along these lines. I doubt very much that this has anything to do with vacuum-packed fire equipment, but who knows?!
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Vacuum pump fire fighting apparatus

http://www.firovac.com/news/firefighting-changes-vacuum-appa...

Gilbert Lumber in Smsithville, Ohio suffered a fire Saturday March 24, 2001. The first unit arrived to find one of the buildings used to produce pallets partically ablaze. But despite theintensity and length of the blaze, the property was not a total loss. eight Departments responded and there were 5 vacuum tankers supplying water from near by static sources to assist the towns water hydrants.

"Just the one section of the building was lost" said the manager. "We are still in operation and we'll be up and running on Monday morning".

The result was different at a previous fire 10 years before when the complete complex burned and the hydrants collapsed. There were no vacuum tankers at that fire.



Near Wooster, Ohio an older barn caught fire one May after a lightning storm. The owner said he initially thought the barn would be a total loss but later checked into whether new roof trusses could be used on the charred timber. "The timber was still good and as solid as when the agricultural equipment was parked on it" He said. Now the old barn has a new life with a new roof, trusses and gray siding mounted to the charred - but structurally sound- original timber frame. Five vacuum tankers supplied water to that fire. The owner credits firefighters' quick response.



Cannan Township Fire Department from Creston, Ohio was called to "the BIG one" in the middle of the night in 2006. A meat processing plant was on fire that took 4 alarms and 6+ departments to battle the blaze and protect two exposed propane tanks. There were no hydrants in the area yet the combination of vacuum and conventional tankers supplied enough water to contain the fire to the building in which it started and saved the surrounding attached buildings. "When you train so often for the BIG one, it was good to see everything worked together well" one of the firefighters said.
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