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Kuschelduscher
Dec 4, 2012 18:54
11 yrs ago
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German term

Gutauswurf

German to English Tech/Engineering Medical: Pharmaceuticals
Funktionsprüfung des Blisterprüfsystems

Routinekontrolle
Programmoptimierung wegen zu hohem Gutauswurf

Does 'gut' mean commodity (or good)?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 rejection of good products
3 Go-ejection
References
Quality failed batches
gut ejection

Discussion

freekfluweel Dec 5, 2012:
Ausfall Pharmaabfall if this earlier question is related to this one, then most likely you should read: "Good" (not commodity). Waste of 7 kg !
Johannes Gleim Dec 5, 2012:
Yes Ja / Nein => Go / No-Go
Auswurfgegenkontrolle => ejection countercheck
Gutanteil => usable part, good part, finished part (or similar)

Note: terms not verified due to late hour, but that's the way I would express the meaning.
wagadugu (asker) Dec 5, 2012:
Another addition Gegenkontrolle eingeschaltet? ja nein entfällt
Teilgefüllte Blister erkannt? ja nein entfällt
Fehler simuliert / erkannt

Auswurf gemäß SOP vollständig entsorgt
wagadugu (asker) Dec 5, 2012:
Can this addition be helpful?

Prüfpunkte
fehlende
Auswurfgegenkontrolle

Auswurf gemäß SOP kontrolliert, Guntanteil dem Verpackungsprozess wieder zugeführt
freekfluweel Dec 5, 2012:
hyphenation it's written without one in a patent!!!
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/DE202010005154.html

[Could we go for OK-goods/good goodies?] ;-)))
Trudy Peters Dec 4, 2012:
I think it just means that there are too many rejects, that the equipment is (r)ejecting too many blister packs (goods)
jccantrell Dec 4, 2012:
OK, perhaps .... it might be just the OPPOSITE of what I was saying. It may be putting too many rejects in the OK pile. In view of freekflu's website, it can have two paths: OK and Not OK. If it is shunting too many bad products into the OK path, then I would consider the Gutauswurfrate too high and would fiddle with the system.
freekfluweel Dec 4, 2012:
@uyuni hyphenation: point taken!

However, "too high and OK" goes both ways... why would it be bad if it spits out too many (numbers)? Only when the blistering cannot follow the numbers... (?) New blistering machine required/adjusted?
uyuni Dec 4, 2012:
For a better understanding @lirka & jccanterell How can an output which is considered 'good' or 'OK' be 'too (!) high/'zu (!) hoch'?

@freekfluweel:
Please be aware of the fact that there is a hyphen in 'Gut-Auswurf' in the text of your URL (as opposed to 'Gutauswurf' - not hyphenated...).
freekfluweel Dec 4, 2012:
would this be OK/not OK with you? http://www.biomation.de/sade-wiegesystem-sp220.php
jccantrell Dec 4, 2012:
I have seen this as ... OK/Not OK in terms of inspections and tests. I would venture to say that the system is rejecting too many packages that later turn out to be on the OK side. So, in my experience, Gut here means OK.
uyuni Dec 4, 2012:
Ich bin überzeugt, dass hier das Produktions*gut*, die 'Ware' gemeint ist.
*Commodity* also...

Ob der Terminus technicus hier 'ejection, emission, outflow, throw-out' oder etwas gänzlich Anderes ist, kann ich hier auf die Schnelle nicht beurteilen.
Lirka Dec 4, 2012:
it means 'good' as opposed to Schlecht-Auswurf

Proposed translations

+1
14 hrs

rejection of good products

or good rejects for short.

I basically agree with lirka's comment. See this link on a blister inspection system (German and English):
http://www.scanware.de/cms/de/fuellkontrolle/blister.html

Diagnosefunktionen zur Optimierung der Parametereinstellungen für die Auswertung und zur Minimierung von Gut-Auswurf

Diagnostic tools to optimise parameter settings for production and to minimise good rejects
Peer comment(s):
neutral Johannes Gleim : Sorry, not rejection, but ejection! Only bad products are rejected. // (and ejecteted to the bad part tray). No rejection means acception (which can be ejected to the good parts tray). Doppelte Verneinung!
12 hrs
Sorry, I do not agree. The inspection system described in the link has to be optimized to minimize the rejection of good products.ection
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
7 days
Thank you Harald.
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5 hrs

Go-ejection

'gut' steht hier im Gegensatz zu 'schlecht'.
Bei Lehren würde man von Gut-/Schlecht-Lehren (Go/No-Go gauges) sprechen.

Collischan 241C Bandkontrollwaage mit Schlechtauswurf und Drucker
http://www.hauser-maschinen.com/maschinen/de/machines/01t200...

Collischan 241C inline checkweigher with air blast reject and printer.
http://www.hauser-maschinen.com/maschinen/en/machines/01t200...

8. Auswurfschacht nach Anspruch 1, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass der Schlechtauswurf in einem Winkel von 5–30° und der Gutauswurf in einem Winkel von 5–35° montiert ist und der Schlechtauswurf nach dem Gutauswurf erfolgt.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/DE202010005154.html

Leider keine zweisprachigen Links mit 'Gutauswurf' gefunden.
Deshalb ein Vorschlag 'aus dem Bauch'

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Note added at 3 days4 hrs (2012-12-07 23:36:34 GMT)
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Weitere Bezeichnungen für 'Gutteile' sind 'sound parts' und 'good parts'

Dadurch lässt sich mit einem Blick die Zuordnung der Teile in Gutteil und Schlechtteil verifizieren eine gesteigerte Zuverlässigkeit der Prüfung ist die Folge.festo.com
This allows the assignment of parts into good and reject parts to be verified at a glance and results in increased reliability of inspection.
festo.com

wenn schon das erste Teil ein Gutteil sein soll.
trumpf-machines.com
when the first part is already intended to be a sound part.trumpf-machines.com

Weltweit umfassendste Datenbank für das Generieren präzisester Biegeteile; bereits das erste Teil ist ein Gutteil.
bystronic.us
The world's most extensive database for generating the most precise bending parts; even the first part is a good part.
bystronic.us
http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/uebersetzung/teil gut...

German term or phrase: Schlechtteil als Gutteil
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/tech_engineering...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/tech_engineering...

Gutteil {n} [techn.] in-spec part
http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/deutsch-englisch/Gutteil.html

Stages 1 to 6 are fitted both with pneumatic bed cushions for improved control of the drawing process as well as with pneumatic slide cushions to eject parts from the die.
schulergroup.com
Die Stufen 1 bis 6 sind dabei sowohl mit pneumatischen Tischkissen zur verbesserten Steuerung des Ziehprozesses als auch mit pneumatischen Stößelkissen zum Auswurf der Teile aus dem Werkzeug ausgerüstet.
schulergroup.com
http://www.linguee.de/englisch-deutsch/uebersetzung/to eject...
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Reference comments

4 hrs
Reference:

Quality failed batches

There is a reference (see below) to the machine mentioned in the discussion area, where this machine is promoted for use on failed batches - probably for retrieving the "good" ones out of the "bad" batch and minimizing losses due to failed batches. This would support the hypothesis that "Gutauswurf" means throwing pills on the OK pile (inappropriately so in the asker's case).
Reference:

http://www.pharma-zeitung.de/Tablettenwiegesysteme-zur-100-Verwiegung-bei-Fehlchargen.1497.php

Peer comments on this reference comment:
neutral freekfluweel : same machine, see my first disc. entry
23 mins
Um, well, didn't I say so? I posted this reference information to strengthen the point you made in the discussions area.
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1 hr
Reference:

gut ejection

https://www.google.com/search?q=gut ejection of the blater&r...

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https://www.google.com/search?q=Auswurf der tröpfchen aus de...

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Note added at 2 horas (2012-12-04 21:04:01 GMT)
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https://www.google.com/search?q=Auswurf der tröpfchen aus de...

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Note added at 17 horas (2012-12-05 12:16:07 GMT)
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typo - good ejection
Peer comments on this reference comment:
disagree philgoddard : As well as being an English word meaning 'part of the gastrointestinal tract", Gut is a German word meaning "good" or "goods".
41 mins
typo - good ejection
disagree Martina Fink : The German word "Gut" has nothing to do with the English word "gut".
3 hrs
typo - good ejection
disagree Edith Kelly : you really have guts to post that
9 hrs
typo - good ejection
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