Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
offset at spring
French translation:
décalage à la naissance de la voûte
Added to glossary by
FX Fraipont (X)
Jan 5, 2012 21:22
12 yrs ago
English term
offset at spring
English to French
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
Egyptology
No sentence
It should be about the shape of a roof of an underground funerary chamber - subject: egyptology
From an American scholar
It should be about the shape of a roof of an underground funerary chamber - subject: egyptology
From an American scholar
Proposed translations
(French)
| 3 +3 | décalage à la naissance de la voûte |
FX Fraipont (X)
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| 4 | décalage au niveau du sommier de la voûte |
tredegar82
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| 1 +3 | décalage à la naissance (de la voûte) |
Tony M
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Change log
Jan 19, 2012 06:11: FX Fraipont (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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8 mins
Selected
décalage à la naissance de la voûte
"Fig. 21. Cross-section of Typical Mayan Temple in Northern
Yucatan: a, upper cornice; h, medial cornice; c, upper zone; d, lower
zone; e, wooden lintels; /, exterior doorway; g, interior doorway;
h, offset at spring of vault; i, cap stone.
http://www.archive.org/stream/ancientcivilizat00spin/ancient...
" spring naissance de voûte n. f."
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/R_MotClef/index800...
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Note added at 28 mins (2012-01-05 21:51:23 GMT)
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"The Maya builder did not often essay to construct his arch over
a space more than twelve feet wide, though in the loftier buildings a
much greater span was possible even with the ordinar}^ pitch of the
opposing walls. The average incline appears to be about 65 degrees,
but occasional examples rise to So degrees, while others fall to 60 or
even 55 degrees; the latter pitch would, however, give a weak con-
struction, as the outward thrust would be increased to a dangerous de-
gree. A building 24 feet high with roof 3 feet thick would accommodate
a vault 21 feet high. If the vertical walls below are carried up to half
this height, which is perhaps not far from the average relation of
upper and lower spaces, an incline of 65 degrees in the opposing
walls, allowing 18 inches for the capstone span, will give a vault g
feet in width, or nearly ten feet, measured on the floor level, as there
is usually an offset at the spring of the arch of from 3 to 6 inches on
each side. "
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/william-h-holmes/archa...
Yucatan: a, upper cornice; h, medial cornice; c, upper zone; d, lower
zone; e, wooden lintels; /, exterior doorway; g, interior doorway;
h, offset at spring of vault; i, cap stone.
http://www.archive.org/stream/ancientcivilizat00spin/ancient...
" spring naissance de voûte n. f."
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/R_MotClef/index800...
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Note added at 28 mins (2012-01-05 21:51:23 GMT)
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"The Maya builder did not often essay to construct his arch over
a space more than twelve feet wide, though in the loftier buildings a
much greater span was possible even with the ordinar}^ pitch of the
opposing walls. The average incline appears to be about 65 degrees,
but occasional examples rise to So degrees, while others fall to 60 or
even 55 degrees; the latter pitch would, however, give a weak con-
struction, as the outward thrust would be increased to a dangerous de-
gree. A building 24 feet high with roof 3 feet thick would accommodate
a vault 21 feet high. If the vertical walls below are carried up to half
this height, which is perhaps not far from the average relation of
upper and lower spaces, an incline of 65 degrees in the opposing
walls, allowing 18 inches for the capstone span, will give a vault g
feet in width, or nearly ten feet, measured on the floor level, as there
is usually an offset at the spring of the arch of from 3 to 6 inches on
each side. "
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/william-h-holmes/archa...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Tony M
7 mins
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Thanks!
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| agree |
kashew
: I hope the link works!
11 hrs
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thanks - for the ref too
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| agree |
enrico paoletti
21 hrs
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merci!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
8 hrs
décalage au niveau du sommier de la voûte
Je pense que les deux explications (sommier/naissance de la voûte) se valent. On peut aussi parler de « retranche » pour le décalage.
+3
7 mins
décalage à la naissance (de la voûte)
Hard to be sure without any more context, but I'd say that would at least translate the term literally.
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Note added at 22 hrs (2012-01-06 19:30:58 GMT)
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It sounds as if this particular 'offset' is some kind of 'corbelling', where the arch starts slightly sticking out from the wall, thus giving a marginally increased span.
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Note added at 22 hrs (2012-01-06 19:30:58 GMT)
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It sounds as if this particular 'offset' is some kind of 'corbelling', where the arch starts slightly sticking out from the wall, thus giving a marginally increased span.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
FX Fraipont (X)
: you won :-)
1 min
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Thanks, F-X! But you took the time to provide refs. ;-)
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| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
6 hrs
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Merci, Gilles !
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| agree |
enrico paoletti
21 hrs
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Grazie, Enrico!
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Discussion
However, the 2 answers you have are merely literal translations of the source term, and hence do not in any way interpret what it means — that, I'm afraid, will be down to yourselves or the readers to figure out. I assume the image you have would probably make it clear just what sort of 'offset' is involved.
I don't see where you are getting your proposal from, unless you have some more context that you are not giving us. How does this term occur (even without an actual sentence, you must have some other surrounding context)!