Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
casa troncal
English translation:
stem family
Added to glossary by
Robert Forstag
Mar 16, 2011 10:53
13 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United States
Translating words, preserving meaning
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
casa troncal
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Anthropology
Navarre: 18th century
Esta casa troncal ha producido muchas ramas, de que
son representantes los señores del grupo siguiente: (followed by list of names)
Thank you.
son representantes los señores del grupo siguiente: (followed by list of names)
Thank you.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | stem family |
Jenni Lukac (X)
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| 3 +1 | root (family) |
MJ Barber
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| 4 | family tree |
Muriel Vasconcellos
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| 3 | core family |
Noni Gilbert Riley
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| 3 | (main) ancestral estate |
Simon Bruni
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| 3 | "ancestors' home" |
Rosmu
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| 3 | stem household |
liz askew
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Proposed translations
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stem family
Without more context, this is only a suggestion. I am ussuming that "casa" here means "family" or "lineage". Your problem is how to work all these stems, branches, trunks and roots into a readable sentence! Research: Domestic Unit. The family remains the basic social unit, more important than the individual, despite the accelerated evolution of Andorran society. Most enterprises and business are organized through the family, distributing functions according to capacities and the level of study of each member. These family groups, following the institution of the familia troncal (stem family), incorporate a married pair and their children.
Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
Also proz: Domestic Unit. The family remains the basic social unit, more important than the individual, despite the accelerated evolution of Andorran society. Most enterprises and business are organized through the family, distributing functions according to capacities and the level of study of each member. These family groups, following the institution of the familia troncal (stem family), incorporate a married pair and their children.
Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
also: http://books.google.es/books?id=9iMZuJfVwp0C&pg=PA242&lpg=PA...
Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
Also proz: Domestic Unit. The family remains the basic social unit, more important than the individual, despite the accelerated evolution of Andorran society. Most enterprises and business are organized through the family, distributing functions according to capacities and the level of study of each member. These family groups, following the institution of the familia troncal (stem family), incorporate a married pair and their children.
Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
also: http://books.google.es/books?id=9iMZuJfVwp0C&pg=PA242&lpg=PA...
Peer comment(s):
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liz askew
: Indeed. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:oYe9-wAi-I0J:www2....
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Thanks very much, Liz. The reference is brilliant!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This would seem to be the best fit here. Thanks, Jenni. And thanks to everyone else who responded and commented."
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Noni Gilbert Riley
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
The translator people turn to
Native in: English (Variant: UK) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to Spanish, English, and 1 more.
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4
core family
Don't know if there is a standard term, but here's an idea.
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Note added at 8 mins (2011-03-16 11:02:09 GMT)
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Main family, perhaps
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Main family, perhaps
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11 mins
root (family)
Term used a lot in genealogy.
In somewhat isolation and comfort of the mountainous region Alavians, with fair ease, assimilated into the local Georgian peasantry by adapting local customs, religious practices, and changing their name yet aggain adding suffix dze/ძე (Georgian for son/descendent of) to the root family name Alavid and thus becoming Alavidze.
The Wales Phillips family is the founding root family of the Massachusetts Phillips and New Jersey families.
Many more like that.
In somewhat isolation and comfort of the mountainous region Alavians, with fair ease, assimilated into the local Georgian peasantry by adapting local customs, religious practices, and changing their name yet aggain adding suffix dze/ძე (Georgian for son/descendent of) to the root family name Alavid and thus becoming Alavidze.
The Wales Phillips family is the founding root family of the Massachusetts Phillips and New Jersey families.
Many more like that.
Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alavidze
http://www.heritageregistry.net/pictorial/pix.phillips.surname.html
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Noni Gilbert Riley
: Sounds more like it!
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thanks :D, although the challenge then is to word it so the branches don't grow directly out of the root :D
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13 mins
Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Related KudoZ points
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16
(main) ancestral estate
My feeling is that this relates to "bienes troncales", defined by the RAE as:
1. m. pl. Der. Los patrimoniales que, muerto el poseedor sin posteridad, en vez de pasar al heredero regular, vuelven, por ministerio de la ley, a la línea, tronco o raíz de donde vinieron.
Cheers
Simon
1. m. pl. Der. Los patrimoniales que, muerto el poseedor sin posteridad, en vez de pasar al heredero regular, vuelven, por ministerio de la ley, a la línea, tronco o raíz de donde vinieron.
Cheers
Simon
5 hrs
"ancestors' home"
From this ancestors’ home come the descendants of the different family branches who are represented by the following group of people:
7 hrs
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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12
family tree
Why not? It goes with "ramas".
11 hrs
stem household
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