Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
рак, лебедь и щука
English translation:
So far there has been no headway/progress --
Added to glossary by
Clive Wilshin
Apr 30, 2009 12:07
15 yrs ago
Russian term
Translations that read like originals
Native in: English
Works in: Russian to English, French to English
рак, лебедь и щука
Russian to English
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Раньше за эту проблему целиком отвечало Главное ракетно-артиллерийское управление. А несколько лет назад появились и другие ведомства, ответственные за этот участок. В итоге - рак, лебедь и щука. Не успеем довести до ума один проект, как заказчики требуют вносить в него коррективы - с учетом новых технологий и научных рекомендаций.
I'm not sure if the sense is "the result is neither one thing nor the other (i.e. utter chaos)", or "too many cooks are spoiling the broth" (or both). Maybe 'everyone has completely different ideas'?
I'm not sure if the sense is "the result is neither one thing nor the other (i.e. utter chaos)", or "too many cooks are spoiling the broth" (or both). Maybe 'everyone has completely different ideas'?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | The cart is still there |
Alex Khanin
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| 3 | everyone is pulling in their own separate direction |
paul hacker
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References
| KudoZ! |
Igor Moshkin
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Proposed translations
38 mins
Alex Khanin
Germany
Germany
Native in Russian
Germany
Pushing the envelope of meaning
Native in: Russian 
Works in: German to Russian, English to Russian, Hebrew to Russian, and 18 more.
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11
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The cart is still there
Reference to the famous Russian fable about the swan, the crab and the pike. Each is trying to pull the cart in his direction, so they end up without moving it even for an inch.
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it's about an ineffective interaction among team members.
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it's about an ineffective interaction among team members.
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "That's for the explanation and reference. Not sure if we really say 'The cart is still there' (да только воз и ныне там), so I went for 'So far there has been no headway.'
Reference to a famous Russian fable about a swan, the crab and a pike. Each is trying to pull the cart in his direction, so they end up without moving it even for an inch."
14 hrs
paul hacker
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Retired foreign service officer
Native in: English
Works in: Finnish to English, Swedish to English, Czech to English, and 4 more.
everyone is pulling in their own separate direction
I base this on the context of the article -- that there are too many authorities involved, none of which coordinates with the other. Alternative is something like: "and the result is so much wheel spinning" -- a term often used to describe a lot of motion that gets you nowhere
Reference comments
21 mins
Igor Moshkin
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Russian Federation
Feedback and support of any kind
Native in: Russian 
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English
Related KudoZ points
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15
Reference:
KudoZ!
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