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Ornabit
Carolo Curteys qui obiit v Kal. Quint. A.D. MDCCCLXVI
Apr 16, 2009 18:35
15 yrs ago
Latin term

Ex agro hantoniensi

Latin to English Social Sciences Anthropology
Part of a Latin inscription on the tomb of Jacobus Jones who died in 1772.
Proposed translations (English)
2 -1 From the land of Basing
4 +5 from Hampshire
Change log

Apr 16, 2009 18:36: Kim Metzger changed "Language pair" from "English" to "Latin to English" , "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"

Discussion

Tony M Apr 21, 2009:
Well, all you need to do is... ...contact desertfox (who I know is a perfectly reasonable guy!), explain the mistake, and ask for his prior agreement to 'ungrade' the question, and then go back to Support armed with that info.
Pyran (X) (asker) Apr 21, 2009:
Correction needed Support has declined to make the correction because "Except in cases of abuse, ProZ.com policy is that before an answer can be ungraded, both the asker and the answerer who originally received the points must agree to ungrade that answer."
Tony M Apr 21, 2009:
Right! In that case, you should contact mods or site staff for a correction; no-one else can do that. Good luck!
Pyran (X) (asker) Apr 21, 2009:
Correction needed The answer which I accepted was the reply by Kathryn Litherland, namely "From Hampshire", as is implied by my comment and I entered my answer in the box below the replies of agreement of others on her section. How it appeared on the section of an earlier responder, only the computer knows.
Kathryn Litherland Apr 21, 2009:
In "'Murican" Or, translated more simply to 'Murican: "I wuz robbed!"
Tony M Apr 21, 2009:
Unbelievable I really can't understand why Asker has chosen the WRONG answer here! 'hantoniensi' MEANS 'Hampshire', so the implication (at least from the meagre context we have available) is certainly that we DO know where the man came from. However, there is NOTHING in the context given to suggest ANY CONNECTION WHATSOEVER with the very tiny locality of 'Basing', which is just a very small part of the large county of Hampshire.
BdiL Apr 17, 2009:
Nota As amazed as I may be at the capacity of my peers (?!more competent colleagues) to answer, what if the question had sounded "Part of a Latin inscription on the tomb /in [place], [eastern USA] or [USA]/ of Jacobus Jones who died in 1772"??? What I'm trying to say is, "why don't askers help answerers, and THEMSELVES, by posting more circumscribed questions?" or is it they are hoping to make it more tantalizing finding the solution?! It is a matter of method and I don't mean to pick on Pyran especially. (Pyran...: in Istria??!!! Oh, no, that's Piran; but in Italian Pyran = Piran = Pirano [d'Istria] and Pirano [C5H6O]).

Proposed translations

-1
14 mins
Selected

From the land of Basing

lexicon.ff.cuni.cz/corrections/txt/bt_b0068.txt - 13k

Read the above Google hit.

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Note added at 15 mins (2009-04-16 18:50:37 GMT)
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It's in Hampshire.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Tony M : In the ref. you quote, Basing is mentioned as being in 'agro hantoniensis', i.e. in Hampshire
2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you. All we know about this man is on his tomb, namely his name, age and year of death plus the phrase in question so are unable to confirm that he came from Hampshire to Cornwall."
+5
28 mins

from Hampshire

"Theophilus POYNTER or POINTER came from a high-born family of Whitchurch, Hants [abbreviation for Hampshire], according to his memorial plaque, which describes him as "Generosâ Prosapiâ de Whitchurch, in Agro Hantoniensi oriundus ... sprung from a high-born family in Whitchurch in Hampshire."

http://www.headington.org.uk/oxon/doctors/surgeons/poynter_t...

Here's a nice Latinization:
"Catalogs Senatus Academici, ...., in Collegio
Dartmuthensi, Hanoverae, in Republica Neo-Hantoniensi."
(i.e., catalog of the academic senate...Dartmouth College, Hanover, State of New Hampshire).
www.gwu.edu/gelman/spec/researchguides/bibliographies/stick...

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Note added at 34 mins (2009-04-16 19:09:26 GMT)
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""Johannes Lucas, in agro Hantoneinsi natus, ab antiqua et nobili familia Lucasiorum oriundus....This John Lucas, M.A., (whom I well knew) was borne at Froyle in Hampshire, ..."
http://books.google.com/books?id=9ylPvKNF_FMC&pg=PA191
Peer comment(s):
agree Tony M
2 hrs
agree Joseph Brazauskas
3 hrs
agree Sabine Akabayov, PhD
7 hrs
agree Phong Le
9 hrs
agree Luis Antonio de Larrauri : See also this reference: www.archive.org/stream/remarkscollectio02hearuoft/remarksco...
12 hrs
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