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English term or phrase:

sit for an oral and written work exam in december?

English answer:

must sit oral and written exams (examinations) in December.

Added to glossary by Taña Dalglish
Dec 13, 2008 15:53
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English term

sit for an oral and written work exam in december?

Non-PRO English Other Linguistics
Is it correct to say : Must fit for AN oral and Written Work EXAM in December?
Change log

Dec 14, 2008 03:33: Taña Dalglish changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/117715">Patsy Florit's</a> old entry - "sit for an oral and written work exam in december?"" to ""must sit an oral and written exam (examination) in December.""

Discussion

Demi Ebrite Dec 14, 2008:
In the 'virtualreview' article, it is stated: "Chinese can sit US college entrance exam in Beijing". So, I imagine it is acceptable either way. I would probably write it to best fit the tone of the entire document.
Demi Ebrite Dec 14, 2008:
It's a toss up - the UK Marine Society uses both - http://www.ms-sc.org/Marine-Society/Content/Education/Learne... Another example is from Asia: http://virtualreview.org/china/zoom/503675/chinese-can-sit-u... -
Patsy Florit (asker) Dec 14, 2008:
Apparently, in the USA and in Australia you might use "for"while in Britain you just sit ... exams. Am I right?
Patsy Florit (asker) Dec 14, 2008:
Debrite and Taña I want to thank you both for devoting so much time to this! :)
Patsy Florit (asker) Dec 14, 2008:
Some more info We write these exact words in a REPORT CARD at the end of the year: "MUST SIT (FOR) ORAL and LITERATURE EXAMS in February" and this means the kid didn`t promote to the upper form. He needed a 6 as a FINAL AVERAGE and couldn`t reach the required standard. Therefore he`ll have to sit for these exams in February again!
Taña Dalglish Dec 13, 2008:
Thanks debrite. No problem! The "brainstorming" and "prodding" sessions are good for the soul, once in a while! (smile ..)
Demi Ebrite Dec 13, 2008:
@Taña - you are so right! I found many examples - . . 'applicants must sit English-Japanese and Japanese-English translation examinations'. I believe we have a backward habit of incorrectly stating that we must 'sit for' exams in AE, and it is incorrect.
Taña Dalglish Dec 13, 2008:
across the Atlantic and therefore, only audience will determine this. "Must sit oral and written examinations in December sounds fine to me.
Taña Dalglish Dec 13, 2008:
@debrite. That´s is why context is so important. Patsy still needs to confirm "word for word" what the exact context is: IMO, put it down to perhaps British English, but there is no need for the "for". This may well be a case of different styles
Demi Ebrite Dec 13, 2008:
Good, Taña ~ I believe then "for" must be added, as you could not write, '. . . must sit oral examinations' - 'must sit for oral exams' would work with the entire sentence you have written.
Taña Dalglish Dec 13, 2008:
If I understand you then, but you will have to provide the full sentence to verify the context: ".. must sit oral and written examinations in December". In the plural form as separate examinations. Hope I understand you.
Patsy Florit (asker) Dec 13, 2008:
Some more info The ORAL exam is not related to the Literature one. They are two different exams, one on Oral Work and the other one is on Literature!
Taña Dalglish Dec 13, 2008:
examination having an oral component, but then I could be dead wrong or left school too long ago!! (smile!). But you may have a Literature I and II examination. More context is definitely needed to determine the true context!!
Taña Dalglish Dec 13, 2008:
Patsy: I agree with debrite. More context is needed. What I would add is this. If the oral part is related to the "literature" exam, then it is one examination having different components. I personally am not familiar in the case of a literature
Demi Ebrite Dec 13, 2008:
Thank you for the clarification, Patsy! This helps - in that case, more context would be helpful to determine if the plural is needed for 'exam'.
Patsy Florit (asker) Dec 13, 2008:
ALMOST identical You`re right! But in this case I`m interested in the word EXAM or EXAMS. However, I wrote it like that because there were different suggestions :
Sit an Oral and Literature exam
Sit Literature exam (without the article)
and Sit for an Oral and Literature exam
Demi Ebrite Dec 13, 2008:
This question is almost identical to the one you posted on Dec. 10th and eleven members took the time to reply: English term or phrase: "sit for Literature exam?". http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english/linguistics/2981192-sit_fo...

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must sit an oral and written exam (examination) in December.

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sit for an oral and written work exam in december?
Must fit for AN oral and Written Work EXAM in December?

(I) must sit an oral and written exam (examination) in December.


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DRANZCOG Examination Information & Application Form 2009
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Please note that applications for the written and oral examinations in the same half of the ... may select the venue where they wish to sit the examination. ...
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HTH!

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-12-13 17:02:39 GMT)
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I believe the confusion between similarly posted questions is where to use “for”: i.e. “to sit an examination” or “to sit for an examination”. IMO, as it relates to this particular question the “for” is not required.
Resultados 1 - 10 de aproximadamente 5,740,000 de sit an examination. (0.06 segundos). Sorry, my computer´s default is set to Spanish.

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APPLICATION TO SIT AN NHA EXAMINATION
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It is only an application to sit an examination ... Sit the general scope physician examination with a special interest in. (tick one). :. Anesthesiology ...
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Application to sit for a Deferred Examination
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I declare that the information supplied herein is correct and complete and that .... When to complete the DE – Application to sit for Deferred Examination ...
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Note added at 11 hrs (2008-12-14 03:22:45 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you very much Patsy.
Peer comment(s):

agree Patricia Townshend (X)
14 mins
Many thanks Patricia. Appreciate it.
agree Jack Doughty
16 mins
Thank you so much Jack. Have a great weekend!
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submit an oral and written exam in December

very formal, less formal would be "take" an oral and written exam
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