Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
Comandante in 2a
English translation:
chief officer/chief mate
Added to glossary by
moranna (X)
Jun 26, 2008 15:34
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Italian term
Italy
Law Degree and Diploma in Translation
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Italian to English
Comandante in 2a
Italian to English
Law/Patents
Ships, Sailing, Maritime
seafarers' professions and ranks
What rank onboard ship does "Comandante in 2a" correspond to in English?
"3) Sono state definite, con decorrenza 1° giugno 2005, le indennità di navigazione dei Comandanti, Direttori di macchina, Comandanti in 2a e Direttori di macchina in 2a, imbarcati su navi da crociera."
"3) Sono state definite, con decorrenza 1° giugno 2005, le indennità di navigazione dei Comandanti, Direttori di macchina, Comandanti in 2a e Direttori di macchina in 2a, imbarcati su navi da crociera."
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | chief officer/chief mate |
moranna (X)
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| 4 +3 | second-in-command |
Federica Banzola
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| 4 +1 | Staff Captain |
Hilary Bruce
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| 4 +1 | executive officer |
Gian
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Jun 28, 2008 16:42: moranna (X) Created KOG entry
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chief officer/chief mate
Chief Officer/Chief Mate
For more details on this topic, see Chief Mate.
The Chief Officer (often called the Chief Mate in the United States) is the head of the deck department on a merchant vessel, second-in-command after the ship's Master. The Chief Mate's primary responsibilities are the vessel's cargo operations, its stability, and supervising the deck crew. The mate is responsible for the safety and security of the ship, as well as the welfare of the crew on board. Additional duties include maintenance of the ship's hull, cargo gears, accommodations, the life saving appliances and the firefighting appliances. The Chief Mate also trains the crew and cadets on various aspects like safety, firefighting, search and rescue, and various other contingencies.
On most vessels, the Chief Officer and First Officer (or First Mate) are synonymous, but passenger vessels often carry a separate First Officer who is junior to the Chief Officer.
La gerarchia dei componenti dell’ equipaggio marittimo è la seguente:
1) comandante;
2) direttore di macchina, comandante in seconda, capo commissario, e medico di bordo direttore del servizio sanitario;
3) primo ufficiale di coperta, primo ufficiale di macchina, cappellano, primo medico aggiunto, primo commissario;
4) secondo ufficiale di coperta, secondo ufficiale di macchina, secondo medico aggiunto, secondo commissario, primo radiotelegrafista;
5) gli altri ufficiali;
6) nostromo e maestro di macchina;
7) gli altri sottufficiali;
8) i comuni.
Il pilota durante il periodo in cui presta servizio a bordo è equiparato al primo ufficiale.”
For more details on this topic, see Chief Mate.
The Chief Officer (often called the Chief Mate in the United States) is the head of the deck department on a merchant vessel, second-in-command after the ship's Master. The Chief Mate's primary responsibilities are the vessel's cargo operations, its stability, and supervising the deck crew. The mate is responsible for the safety and security of the ship, as well as the welfare of the crew on board. Additional duties include maintenance of the ship's hull, cargo gears, accommodations, the life saving appliances and the firefighting appliances. The Chief Mate also trains the crew and cadets on various aspects like safety, firefighting, search and rescue, and various other contingencies.
On most vessels, the Chief Officer and First Officer (or First Mate) are synonymous, but passenger vessels often carry a separate First Officer who is junior to the Chief Officer.
La gerarchia dei componenti dell’ equipaggio marittimo è la seguente:
1) comandante;
2) direttore di macchina, comandante in seconda, capo commissario, e medico di bordo direttore del servizio sanitario;
3) primo ufficiale di coperta, primo ufficiale di macchina, cappellano, primo medico aggiunto, primo commissario;
4) secondo ufficiale di coperta, secondo ufficiale di macchina, secondo medico aggiunto, secondo commissario, primo radiotelegrafista;
5) gli altri ufficiali;
6) nostromo e maestro di macchina;
7) gli altri sottufficiali;
8) i comuni.
Il pilota durante il periodo in cui presta servizio a bordo è equiparato al primo ufficiale.”
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks very much indeed, everyone. They are all valid answers. In the end I went with Chief Mate, because I found a document on Internet by the same trade union as that referred to in my document and it seems they use "Chief Mate"."
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Federica Banzola
Italy
Italy
Native in Italian
Specializes in field
Italy
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Native in: Italian (Variant: Standard-Italy) 
Works in: English to Italian, Spanish to Italian
second-in-command
ho trovato questa definizione proprio nel gergo nautico
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Note added at 5 min (2008-06-26 15:40:47 GMT)
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oppure un sinomino è executive officer
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Note added at 5 min (2008-06-26 15:40:47 GMT)
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oppure un sinomino è executive officer
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ELISA GIUSTI
: ok executive officer!
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John Walsh
: NB: second-in-command is always an executive officer but an executive officer is not always second-in-command.
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Hilary Bruce
: IMO, for a term that can apply to all sectors (considering the note added by Grace), second-in-command is probably best.
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Hilary Bruce
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
All about hospitality.
Native in: English 
Works in: Italian to English, English to Italian
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Staff Captain
A successful cruise ship company uses the term Staff.
Direttore di macchina is Chief Engineer.
Direttore di macchina in 2a is Staff Engineer.
Direttore di macchina is Chief Engineer.
Direttore di macchina in 2a is Staff Engineer.
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ivanamdb
: yep for cruise ships - http://www.cruisemates.com/articles/kukiside/staffcaptain.cf... otherwise, regarding military rank federica's answer would be correct; but the question is about cruise ships.
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executive officer
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Gammasom - News - Marina, chi va e chi viene: girandola di promozioni Il contrammiraglio Emilio Foltzer, comandante del Gruppo navale Italiano, .... ha svolto l’incarico di Executive Officer presso il Comando del Contingente ...
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executive - English-Italian Dictionary - WordReference.com executive editor, redattore esecutivo. executive function, funzione esecutiva. executive office, ufficio esecutivo. executive officer, vice comandante ...
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Forza da Sbarco - Il Comandante Comandante delle Forze da Sbarco - Biografia (italiano) ... 2003 ha svolto l’incarico di Executive Officer presso il Comando del Contingente Nazionale della ...
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It:Glossary - Battleground Europe Wiki Commanding Officer, Comandante, ufficiale in comando .... XO, Executive Officer, Ufficiale secondo in comando. YW, You're welcome, benvenuto ...
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Note added at 1 giorno4 ore (2008-06-27 20:06:51 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(nautical)
Subordinates
For more details on this topic, see Seafarer's professions and ranks.
The officer who is ranked immediately below the captain of a ship is designated the chief mate, chief officer, or first officer (also executive officer on naval vessels or staff captain on large passenger vessels). The chief mate is responsible for implementing the orders of the captain as well as conferring with the captain on matters concerning the ship. The "second in command" is typically responsible (along with the senior enlisted petty officer) for maintaining minor discipline on the ship as well as the vessel's cargo, stability and maintenance. The second mate (navigational officer), the third mate (safety officer), and the boatswain (crew foreman) are ranked below the chief mate.
Gammasom - News - Marina, chi va e chi viene: girandola di promozioni Il contrammiraglio Emilio Foltzer, comandante del Gruppo navale Italiano, .... ha svolto l’incarico di Executive Officer presso il Comando del Contingente ...
www.gammasom.it/News2006/Gammanews2006167Carriere.htm - 23k - Copia cache - Pagine simili - Salva risultato
executive - English-Italian Dictionary - WordReference.com executive editor, redattore esecutivo. executive function, funzione esecutiva. executive office, ufficio esecutivo. executive officer, vice comandante ...
www.wordreference.com/enit/executive - 16k - Copia cache - Pagine simili - Salva risultato
Forza da Sbarco - Il Comandante Comandante delle Forze da Sbarco - Biografia (italiano) ... 2003 ha svolto l’incarico di Executive Officer presso il Comando del Contingente Nazionale della ...
www.marina.difesa.it/sanmarco/biografia.asp - 14k - Copia cache - Pagine simili - Salva risultato
It:Glossary - Battleground Europe Wiki Commanding Officer, Comandante, ufficiale in comando .... XO, Executive Officer, Ufficiale secondo in comando. YW, You're welcome, benvenuto ...
wiki.wwiionline.com/index.php/It:Glossary - 34k - Copia cache - Pagine simili - Salva risultato
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Note added at 1 giorno4 ore (2008-06-27 20:06:51 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(nautical)
Subordinates
For more details on this topic, see Seafarer's professions and ranks.
The officer who is ranked immediately below the captain of a ship is designated the chief mate, chief officer, or first officer (also executive officer on naval vessels or staff captain on large passenger vessels). The chief mate is responsible for implementing the orders of the captain as well as conferring with the captain on matters concerning the ship. The "second in command" is typically responsible (along with the senior enlisted petty officer) for maintaining minor discipline on the ship as well as the vessel's cargo, stability and maintenance. The second mate (navigational officer), the third mate (safety officer), and the boatswain (crew foreman) are ranked below the chief mate.
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