Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

(persianas) de librillo

English translation:

folding (shutters)

Added to glossary by MPGS
Jan 30, 2006 19:56
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Spanish term

(persianas) de librillo

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Architecture
Hello. From a document about building regulations:

"Las persianas serán enrollables o de librillo, con la caja hacia el interior, nunca visible desde fuera."

I am also having trouble with "caja" in this sentence; any suggestions?

Thanks for your help :)

Discussion

Muriel Vasconcellos Jan 31, 2006:
The "librillo" part means that they open like a book as opposed to rolling up. I did a lot of research and could not find any qualifier except "colonial." See my complete answer below.
Simon Bruni (asker) Jan 31, 2006:
yes, they are shutters, not blinds. The problem is not with "persianas" but with "librillo". Thanks :)
Muriel Vasconcellos Jan 30, 2006:
Are these by any chance on the outside of the structure?

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folding shutters

http://www.google.es/search?hl=es&q="folding shutters"&meta=
http://images.google.es/images?hl=es&q="folding shutters"&sa...
http://images.google.es/images?svnum=10&hl=es&lr=&q=persiana...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "that's it! thanks :)"
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accordion blinds?

Accordion or honeycomb blinds
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Roll-up blinds
Natural-fiber reeds from grasses or bamboo, or synthetics like vinyl, are laid horizontally and woven together to produce a semi-transparent blind that rolls up from the bottom. They are inexpensive sun-blockers on a porch or in a sunroom.
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valance

This is the the unit in which the blinds are stored when rolled up and as specified from your piece, can be designed so as not to be visible from outside.

The following will provide a picture of the "caja de persiana" Spanish translation

http://diccionario.coag.es/glosario.php?lingua=castel�n&letra=...

Below is the search for valance you where you can see it is the same thing. Hope this helps

http://images.google.ie/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=blinds valan...

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Motorized Vertical Blinds - Tip Of The Week #59 from Designer Blinds
The entire unit is concealed by a standard vertical blind valance. For tracks as wide as 16 feet with fabric, vinyl, or inserted vanes. ...
www.designerblinds.com/CSTips/CSTips_059.htm - 16k

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for persianas de librillo I would go for
"folding blinds" or "pleated blinds".

Sorry forgot to add that the first time.

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Just found more information:

From looking at the picture of persianas de librillo, this is often simply called a vertical blind or a vertical sliding blind where adjustable. Sliding blind seems to fit in with the librillo mechanism in this case. See link:

http://tatamiroom.com/cgi-local/catalog.pl?category=SLIDING_...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Refugio : That's good for caja, now for persianas de librillo?
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rotating leaf shutters

see ref
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shutters

See pictures at:
http://www2.paginasamarillas.es/sites/069/067/604/001/langua...

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The pictures show them with legends **in Spanish**. I guess the idea is that they open like a book. They can be internal or external.

Shutters have "casing," although it's not entirely clear to me how the casing would work in your case.

You can install the shutters within the window frame (called an inside mount), or **on hanging strips installed on the window** casing or wall (called an ...
doityourself.com/windows/ installinteriorwindowshutters.htm


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Persianas “de librillo” o segunda ventana. Pueden ser de madera, PVC o aluminio dependiendo del tipo de construcción a la que estén destinadas. Son similares a una ventana que, en lugar de cristal, **tiene una serie de lamas móviles o fijas adosadas a los extremos del marco**. Sirven más como elemento decorativo que como elemento de insonorización o aislamiento.
http://www.mundogar.com/ideas/ficha.asp?FN=3&ID=14890

See another picture at: http://www.proyectosintermundia.com/data/otros2.html


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I'm encouraged by the comment from idoia_e. But I've looked for some way to further specify the book-style shutters. Indoors, it's no problem: they are called "plantation shutters." Outdoors, the best I can find is "Bahama shutters" or "Colonial shutters," which are American terms.

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Oops! The Bahama shutters are attached at the top. So the only possibility I could find is "colonial shutters." The fact is, we usually use "shutters" unspecified. So for your text, assuming they are outdoors, I would say "ordinary exterior shutters or rollable shutters, with the case facing the inside" If the shutters were indoors, it would be "rollable blinds or plantation shutters," but then the case part wouldn't make sense.

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Bottom line: In the U.S., we say "shutters" for exterior shutters and "plantation shutters" for interior shutters. All interior/plantation shutters are the "librillo" style; exterior shutters can be "librillo" or the rolling style, but the rolling style is rare in the U.S., so "shutters" for us is understood to be the exterior "librillo" style.
Note from asker:
and thanks for your contribution, Muriel. I would hav liked to give you some points :)
Peer comment(s):

agree Idoia Echenique : Also called "contraventana" in Spain. And 'rolling shutter' for "persiana enrollable". The "caja" is the 'rolling shutter case', which can go either in the inside or outside. See drawing: http://www.swissshade.com/fauser_complete_system.htm
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OK, so the "caja" refers to the rolling shutter. Now I'm wondering if the librillo shutter needs to be further specified (rolling shutters are rare in the US).
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