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Poll: Have you been contacted by a solution provider offering ChatGPT as a translation tool?
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Matthias Brombach
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德国
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No, and I... Apr 16, 2023

...will only react when ChatGPT itself tries to contact me. But I'm already attempting to leave the Matrix.

Christopher Schröder
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Miguel González Álvarez
 
IrinaN
IrinaN
美国
Local time: 00:34
English英语译成Russian俄语
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Solution provider??? Apr 16, 2023

OMG, am I Backwoods or what... Never heard of them.

"We have problem for every solution!"

All my life it's been my bank account.


Christopher Schröder
Tom in London
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Nikolay Novitskiy
 
Claudio Machado Junior
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巴西
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Wow... Apr 17, 2023

Elise Delahaye wrote:

No. But by clients who asked for a proofreading of whatever Google translate/DeepL/ChatGPT translated ? Yes.


Wow... this is the kind of 'job offer' that makes me sick.


 
expressisverbis
expressisverbis
葡萄牙
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No, Apr 17, 2023

but I just got an email for a "huge volume" project from an agency that was banned from Proz.
Anyway, ChatGPT, or alike and job offers from untrustworthy people... just go directly to the bin without a reply.
I really don't like to waste my time with (those) things I am not interested at all.

[Edited at 2023-04-17 12:37 GMT]


 
Gennady Lapardin
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俄罗斯联邦
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Italian意大利语译成Russian俄语
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No Apr 18, 2023

The service is locked in Russia due to known things

 
Metin Demirel
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土耳其
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I will be honest Apr 19, 2023

I have never received any such offer, but it would be exciting for me. Imagine you're tasked to be creative as much as possible on a marketing text with the help of an AI tool. I would enjoy doing that.

 
Andreas Baranowski
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日本
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Whistling in the dark? Apr 19, 2023

A few days back, for my amusement, I gave ChatGPT a Japanese commercial agreement to translate. The result was almost perfect.

Also, for what it’s worth, here is a writer talking about her job loss to ChatGPT.
https://old.reddit.com/r/freelanceWriters/comments/12ff5mw/it_happened_to_me_today/

The wholesale dismissal of
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A few days back, for my amusement, I gave ChatGPT a Japanese commercial agreement to translate. The result was almost perfect.

Also, for what it’s worth, here is a writer talking about her job loss to ChatGPT.
https://old.reddit.com/r/freelanceWriters/comments/12ff5mw/it_happened_to_me_today/

The wholesale dismissal of ChatGPT on this page sounds very much like whistling in the dark.
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Nikolay Novitskiy
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俄罗斯联邦
Local time: 10:34
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English英语译成Russian俄语
Solution providers Apr 19, 2023

In Russia we have many solution providers. Weird people they are, offering solutions to problems that are invented by themselves or never existed.

I try to stay away from them, the farther the better. So my answer is "no".


Miguel González Álvarez
 
Lingua 5B
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波斯尼亚黑塞哥维纳
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Are you joking? Apr 19, 2023

Metin Demirel wrote:

I have never received any such offer, but it would be exciting for me. Imagine you're tasked to be creative as much as possible on a marketing text with the help of an AI tool. I would enjoy doing that.


Are you aware this would be paid peanuts? Would you enjoy the peanuts as well?

Nothing stops you from being creative without GPT.

Btw, we have two almost identical GPT polls, was one not enough?


Philip Lees
expressisverbis
 
Metin Demirel
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No peanuts Apr 19, 2023

Lingua 5B wrote:


Are you aware this would be paid peanuts? Would you enjoy the peanuts as well?

Nothing stops you from being creative without GPT.

Btw, we have two almost identical GPT polls, was one not enough?


I didn’t say anything about the rates. I only said I would enjoy trying an AI on a marketing text.


 
Lingua 5B
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Enjoyment Apr 19, 2023

Metin Demirel wrote:

Lingua 5B wrote:


Are you aware this would be paid peanuts? Would you enjoy the peanuts as well?

Nothing stops you from being creative without GPT.

Btw, we have two almost identical GPT polls, was one not enough?


I didn’t say anything about the rates. I only said I would enjoy trying an AI on a marketing text.


You can enjoy yourself all day long, GPT is freely accessible.

Personally, I don't see any enjoyment in it.


 
Metin Demirel
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Thank you Apr 19, 2023

Lingua 5B wrote:

You can enjoy yourself all day long, GPT is freely accessible.

Personally, I don't see any enjoyment in it.


I have come to realize that ChatGPT, or any other AI tool, is not yet perfect. But most of us know from the experience in the market that most translators are far from perfect too! I don't have any stats to back up what I am going to say but I feel that the good translators constitute only a small fraction of the market and they too will lose big time against the AI tools.

Your comments have strengthened my conviction that we'll be gradually dragged out of the market in a not-so-distant future. Most of the comments here seem to reflect the first stage of grief. And we've already begun seeing the bargaining episode. Thank you for your contribution to this realization.


 
Miguel González Álvarez
Miguel González Álvarez
西班牙
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No Apr 19, 2023

I worked for many years building language models, which is what GPT is, but for AI assistants in consumer applications. So, like a chatbot. I know how they work from the inside, and so on and so forth. Have you tried using GPT? You'll notice the cracks in the seams, the intentionally vague and noncommittal answers. This machine is programmed to sound like a conversation, but it is not programmed to say the truth, or to be whatsoever reliable at all. It can say any random junk with an appearance ... See more
I worked for many years building language models, which is what GPT is, but for AI assistants in consumer applications. So, like a chatbot. I know how they work from the inside, and so on and so forth. Have you tried using GPT? You'll notice the cracks in the seams, the intentionally vague and noncommittal answers. This machine is programmed to sound like a conversation, but it is not programmed to say the truth, or to be whatsoever reliable at all. It can say any random junk with an appearance of legitimacy.

This tech is really limited, at least compared to what some apostles try to paint it as. It takes hundreds of hours of labour to make it work for very limited scopes, and it also is very labour intensive to maintain. There are people trying to fix the output all the time. And if you widen the scope, the amount of labour necessary for the output not to be spaghetti increases exponentially. It is a mess. Take for example it has a 20% failure rate. That may be OK on paper, but nobody in their right mind would pay for something that fails one time out of five.

Anyway, it's not magic. It can't do everything. It's way more limited than it looks.
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Zea_Mays
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意大利
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ChatGPT is not a translation tool Apr 20, 2023

I wonder where the myth of ChatGPT being a translation tool comes from.

The tool just strings together words based on a probability calculation and on a large database collected mainly from the web.
It is a bit better in technical things (way less variables here) and in explaining, but its translations are not as good as those from actual MT tools.
It delivers well sounding texts which often are full of wrong statements.


 
Denis Fesik
Denis Fesik
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Just wait for TruthGPT Apr 20, 2023

What could be better than having machine translations that are truЪ to the original. Even I can't, in many cases, produce translations that are 100% truЪ. For now, I can't understand why everyone is going crazy with this chatty fakemaker. I can get free access to YouChat which, they say, offers pretty much the same functionality and has Internet access, and I keep getting newsletters telling me about how awesome this service is, but I can't make up my mind to go ahead and get chatting: there's... See more
What could be better than having machine translations that are truЪ to the original. Even I can't, in many cases, produce translations that are 100% truЪ. For now, I can't understand why everyone is going crazy with this chatty fakemaker. I can get free access to YouChat which, they say, offers pretty much the same functionality and has Internet access, and I keep getting newsletters telling me about how awesome this service is, but I can't make up my mind to go ahead and get chatting: there's nothing I'd like AI to do for me, no tasks I'd like to automate through it. Maybe it's because I don't make a living off social mediaCollapse


 
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