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strong for mounting drives

Spanish translation: ... para participar en partidas de caza comunales

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English term or phrase:strong for mounting drives
Spanish translation:... para participar en partidas de caza comunales
Entered by: PTeixidor

09:36 Nov 1, 2019
English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Anthropology / Popular science book
English term or phrase: strong for mounting drives
Context: What domestication did

The author is comparing Homo sapiens with Neanderthals. In this paragraph he describes groups size in Neanderthals, but I have not been able to find the meaning of the expression. Maybe is an old English irony?

"The archaeologist Brian Hayden inferred that Neanderthal bands averaged twelve to twenty- four people living in nuclear families with a sexual division of labor, that they formed alliances with ten to twelve other bands, and even that they may sometimes have aggregated into groups up to three- hundred strong for mounting drives". However, evidence of regular inbreeding in Nean-derthals points to their social networks’ being small. The genome of a Neanderthal woman from Siberia showed that her parents were close relatives, such as half- siblings or an uncle and niece, and that similarly inbred matings had occurred regularly among her recent ancestors
PTeixidor
Switzerland
Local time: 21:34
... para participar en partidas de caza comunales
Explanation:
De acuerdo con Eugenia acerca de strong (300 hundred strong, grupos de hasta 300 individuos). Acerca de la expresión "mounting drives", he revisado el artículo de Brian Hayden 'Neandertal social structure?' (Oxford Journal of Archaeology, 2012) en el que explica distintos motivos por los que distintos grupos se asociarían en determinados momentos para aumentar su número y menciona "communal hunting drives", lo cual parece coincidir con tu texto. Para participar en partidas de caza comunales, podría decirse.

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*three hundred strong*

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El artículo no es de acceso libre, pero te copio aquí el párrafo correspondiente: Any large groups such as these, or even the aggregations of 80–100 individuals in desert Australia such as those documented by Basedow (1914, 113, 121, 133), could have engaged in the communal hunting drives postulated as necessary for killing one or more bison or other large game in the Middle Palaeolithic. Such communal hunts of large herbivores like bison would have provided far more food than the paltry
rabbits, marsupial moles and rabbit bandicoots used to sustain the 270 people gathered for the...
initiation ceremonies in Australia that Tindale observed.

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Y más adelante dice lo siguiente:
In sum, aggregated Neandertal macrogroups of 80–300 people appear to have been capable of mounting drives that netted a few animals only during aggregation times. They probably could have killed many more animals if they had any use for greater quantities of meat. However, all indications are that they only killed as many animals as they could immediately use (Farizy et al. 1994).

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El artículo habla de que estas bandas organizadas en torno a familias nucleares mantuvieron redes de alianzas más amplias con otros grupos para poder abastecerse de alimentos en periodos de carestía y también para asegurar su supervivencia y reproducción (mating alliances). Pero creo que en tu caso está claro que se refiere a “montar” (organizar) partidas de caza.

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¡De nada! Este es también uno de mis temas favoritos
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Sara Fairen
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:34
Grading comment
Muchas gracias Sara.
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Summary of answers provided
5grupos de 300
Eugenia Martin
3 +2... para participar en partidas de caza comunales
Sara Fairen
2(hasta 300 personas) para llevar a cabo
Mariana Gutierrez


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
grupos de 300


Explanation:
“Strong” va con 300 hundred”, no con “mounting drives”.
No sé si es esta tu pregunta.


Example sentence(s):
  • an army 30 000 strong: un ejército de 30 000 soldados
  • we were 40 strong: éramos cuarenta
Eugenia Martin
Spain
Local time: 21:34
Native speaker of: Spanish
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
(hasta 300 personas) para llevar a cabo


Explanation:
Creo que esto hay que abordarlo así:

into groups (up to three- hundred strong) for mounting drives.

up to three hundred strong: grupos de hasta 300 personas


mounting en este sentido:

organize and initiate (a campaign or other course of action).


y drive

an organized effort by a number of people to achieve a purpose.


Sin más contexto, entiendo que la idea es que eran grupos de hasta 300 individuos que se reunían para tareas específicas, para determinadas iniciativas.





Mariana Gutierrez
Local time: 16:34
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
... para participar en partidas de caza comunales


Explanation:
De acuerdo con Eugenia acerca de strong (300 hundred strong, grupos de hasta 300 individuos). Acerca de la expresión "mounting drives", he revisado el artículo de Brian Hayden 'Neandertal social structure?' (Oxford Journal of Archaeology, 2012) en el que explica distintos motivos por los que distintos grupos se asociarían en determinados momentos para aumentar su número y menciona "communal hunting drives", lo cual parece coincidir con tu texto. Para participar en partidas de caza comunales, podría decirse.

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Note added at 1 hora (2019-11-01 10:59:15 GMT)
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*three hundred strong*

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hora (2019-11-01 11:01:50 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

El artículo no es de acceso libre, pero te copio aquí el párrafo correspondiente: Any large groups such as these, or even the aggregations of 80–100 individuals in desert Australia such as those documented by Basedow (1914, 113, 121, 133), could have engaged in the communal hunting drives postulated as necessary for killing one or more bison or other large game in the Middle Palaeolithic. Such communal hunts of large herbivores like bison would have provided far more food than the paltry
rabbits, marsupial moles and rabbit bandicoots used to sustain the 270 people gathered for the...
initiation ceremonies in Australia that Tindale observed.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hora (2019-11-01 11:04:39 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Y más adelante dice lo siguiente:
In sum, aggregated Neandertal macrogroups of 80–300 people appear to have been capable of mounting drives that netted a few animals only during aggregation times. They probably could have killed many more animals if they had any use for greater quantities of meat. However, all indications are that they only killed as many animals as they could immediately use (Farizy et al. 1994).

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hora (2019-11-01 11:29:20 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

El artículo habla de que estas bandas organizadas en torno a familias nucleares mantuvieron redes de alianzas más amplias con otros grupos para poder abastecerse de alimentos en periodos de carestía y también para asegurar su supervivencia y reproducción (mating alliances). Pero creo que en tu caso está claro que se refiere a “montar” (organizar) partidas de caza.

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Note added at 4 horas (2019-11-01 14:00:26 GMT)
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¡De nada! Este es también uno de mis temas favoritos

Sara Fairen
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:34
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Muchas gracias Sara.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Muchísimas gracias Sara. En efecto, ese es el artículo que cita el autor en la bibliografía, solo que no tenía acceso a él. Me parece muy bien tu sugerencia de partidas de caza comunales. Saludos, Patricia


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  patinba: "Drive" as in "herd", chasing and trapping animals
1 hr
  -> Muchas gracias :-)
agree  Mónica Algazi
5 hrs
  -> Gracias, Mónica, que tengas un buen fin de semana :-)
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