Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Indonesian term or phrase:
advokat dan pengacara
English translation:
barrister and solicitor
Added to glossary by
Ian Forbes
Aug 7, 2008 05:13
15 yrs ago
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Indonesian term
advokat dan pengacara
Indonesian to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
2. ........., Sarjana Hukum, Advokat dan Pengacara, beralamat di Jalan ....., Jakarta. Dalam hal ini bertindak untuk dirinya sendiri selaku Advokat dan Pengacara berdasarkan surat keputusan Menteri Kehakiman Nomor ....., tanggal ....; untuk selanjutnya disebut “Pihak Kedua”
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | barrister and solicitor |
Ian Forbes
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| 5 | lawyer |
Hipyan Nopri
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| 5 | advocate and solicitor |
Naim Jalil
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| 3 | advocate and lawyer |
Hadiyono Jaqin
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Aug 21, 2008 04:22: Ian Forbes Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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barrister and solicitor
A barrister (in the British legal system) is someone who can appear before the court, including higher courts, whereas a solicitor only helps a barrister prepare his cases, but can also appear in lower courts. Barrister is a good match with advokat, who can appear before any court in Indonesia, but ‘solicitor’ is not a perfect match for ‘pengacara’ because a ‘pengacara’ can only appear before a court in the region in which he is authorized to do so.
Nevertheless the term ‘barrister and solicitor’ are generally used together if the person holds both titles, thus it would be appropriate in this context.
Nevertheless the term ‘barrister and solicitor’ are generally used together if the person holds both titles, thus it would be appropriate in this context.
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29 mins
Hadiyono Jaqin
Thailand
Thailand
Native in Indonesian
Thailand
Simultaneous Interpreter and Translator
Native in: Indonesian (Variant: Standard-Indonesia)
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
advocate and lawyer
IMHO
1 hr
Hipyan Nopri
Indonesia
Indonesia
Native in Indonesian
Specializes in field
Indonesia
Bachelor of English & Candidate LL.B.
Native in: Indonesian (Variants: Minangkabau, Pasemah/Besemah) 
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English
Related KudoZ points
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lawyer
advokat = pengacara = lawyer
Cukup digunakan satu istilah saja meskipun teks sumber terdiri dari dua istilah
Ref.:
KBBI Edisi ketiga. 2005. Terbitan Balai Pustaka.
Undang2 No. 18 tahun 2003 tentang Advokat
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-07 06:39:40 GMT)
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Menurut UU tsb, istilah *advokat* berlaku untuk menyatakan profesi advokat, penasihat hukum, pengacara, dan konsultan hukum.
Pasal 32
(1) Advokat, penasihat hukum, pengacara praktik dan konsultan hukum yang telah diangkat pada saat Undang-undang ini mulai berlaku, dinyatakan sebagai *Advokat* sebagaimana diatur dalam Undang-Undang ini.
Cukup digunakan satu istilah saja meskipun teks sumber terdiri dari dua istilah
Ref.:
KBBI Edisi ketiga. 2005. Terbitan Balai Pustaka.
Undang2 No. 18 tahun 2003 tentang Advokat
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-07 06:39:40 GMT)
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Menurut UU tsb, istilah *advokat* berlaku untuk menyatakan profesi advokat, penasihat hukum, pengacara, dan konsultan hukum.
Pasal 32
(1) Advokat, penasihat hukum, pengacara praktik dan konsultan hukum yang telah diangkat pada saat Undang-undang ini mulai berlaku, dinyatakan sebagai *Advokat* sebagaimana diatur dalam Undang-Undang ini.
2 days 59 mins
Naim Jalil
Malaysia
Malaysia
Malaysia
Bahasa Jiwa Bangsa
Native in: Malay 
Works in: Malay to English, English to Malay, Malay, and 2 more.
advocate and solicitor
for 'pengacara', we can also use attorney, but when combined the terms normally used is 'advocates and solicitors'.
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