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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

pardonregeling

English translation:

general pardon

Added to glossary by Ed Kool
Jul 12, 2007 10:14
16 yrs ago
Dutch term

pardonregeling

Dutch to English Other Law (general)
De pardonregeling is een nederlands woord.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 general pardon
4 -1 pardon accord

Discussion

Albert Stufkens Jul 21, 2007:
Why should mayor Cohen be rebuked if there is a general pardon for everyone?
Ed Kool (asker) Jul 13, 2007:
Context Pardonregeling Het kabinet moet burgemeester Job Cohen van Amsterdam op de vingers tikken omdat hij zich niet houdt aan afspraken over de aanpak van illegalen die buiten de pardonregeling vallen....
writeaway Jul 13, 2007:
Please provide more specific context. Which 'pardonregeling' are you talking about? ARE you talking about specific one?
Adam Smith Jul 12, 2007:
It's generally quite helpful if the asker provides more information and/or context.

Proposed translations

+2
3 mins
Selected

general pardon

"General pardon" - two English words!

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Note added at 1 day12 hrs (2007-07-13 22:16:26 GMT)
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http://www.pardonnu.nl/

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Note added at 1 day12 hrs (2007-07-13 22:21:53 GMT)
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References to Cohen + General pardon (or Amnesty):

http://www.xs4all.nl/~afa/alert/engels/sl3_2004.html

http://www.nisnews.nl/public/260507_1.htm

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1951699,00.htm...

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2006/12/

etc., etc., etc.
Peer comment(s):
agree Deborah do Carmo : :)
36 mins
Thank you! :-)
agree avsie (X) : ;-)
1 hr
Thank you! :-)
agree Nicole Snoek (X)
2 hrs
Thank you!
disagree Albert Stufkens : zie mijn toelichting
4 hrs
Let's avoid the ad hominem approach, shall we? There's no way that this answer could be construed as literal / substitution. It evidently has a political emphasis. But the phrase in English is "general pardon".
neutral Andre de Vries : I have my doubts about "general" - I think it goes too far. Maybe pardon agreement or scheme.
5 days
It's a tricky one I agree. It appears to be an arrangement for a general pardon, which I guess might work as well! :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Dank voor uw bijdrage"
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4 hrs

pardon accord

Het al dan niet honoreren van een bepaalde categorie asielaanvragen was een politieke beslissing nadat tussen het CDA en de PVDA een akkoord was gesloten, dat min of meer een voorwaarde was voor de coalitie.
Het betreft GEEN algemeen pardon maar geldt slechts voor asielzoekers die vóór een bepaalde datum reeds aanwezig waren.


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Note added at 6 hrs (2007-07-12 16:19:53 GMT)
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"General pardon" conveys too broad a connotation.
"Pardonregeling" is very much restrictive!
P.S.
No ad hominem meant.

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Note added at 1 day11 hrs (2007-07-13 21:35:27 GMT)
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As the context subsequently added indicates:
there is an eligible category and an ineligible one.
Thus, restrictive, and definitely not "general"!

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Note added at 9 days (2007-07-21 17:30:25 GMT) Post-grading
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The reference Adam Smith gave: http://www.nisnews.nl/public/260507_1.htm includes this phrase:
"Under the accord with VNG, it has been agreed that the municipalities will try to give the illegal immigrants priority on their waiting lists for subsidised rental accommodation. In Amsterdam, these normally take eight years on average."

Peer comment(s):
disagree Adam Smith : As you point out "Pardon accord" is not a general pardon, however "Pardonregeling" is (see my explanation). QED. //The question is about "pardonregeling", not "pardon akkoord". If it had been the latter, your answer would be right. //It's hardly literal
19 mins
I do not quite understand your argument. Re QED: this is a hot issue here. Where is your explanation? //Answer 2: I see your literal point here. But I feel that translation is more than substituting words. This issue has a political emphasis.
neutral Andre de Vries : pardon accord is not very English - pardon agreement or scheme would seem better
5 days
My dear friend. Human history is dotted with accords! See: http://www.google.nl/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=...
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