May 25, 2009 15:43
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Dutch term

Personeelsbeleid

Dutch to English Social Sciences Human Resources Human resources
The text is about the difference between the traditional old school "personeelsbeleid" and the new "human resources management". I would normally translate "personeelsbeleid" as "human resources management", but here I can't ... "Personnel management", possibly?
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May 25, 2009 15:50: writeaway changed "Field (specific)" from "Finance (general)" to "Human Resources"

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writeaway May 25, 2009:
sentence in Dutch?? Please post a sentence in Dutch so colleagues can see how the term is being used in your document.

Proposed translations

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Staffing policy

Perhaps an older-fashioned term, but really still quite current, and an accurate translation. Also a good contrast with human resources management.
Peer comment(s):

agree vic voskuil : quite neat :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you all ! I have finally chosen 'staffing policy' as the text was about the relationship between corporate policy and 'staffing' policy, and then the evolution from 'staffing policy' towards 'human resources management'."
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personnel policy

I would have thought the blindingly obvious choice would be the best solution.
Peer comment(s):

agree Dave Calderhead
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Human resources policy

If you are trying to distinguish between "old"and "new" where "personnel policy" - as someone else said - is blindingly obvious but you want to bring "New Speak"to the table, then go for "Human Resources (=personnel) Policy.
N.B. Beleid = Policy and there still isn't any real "New Speak" alternative for this - and no way should there be, otherwise we will all end up speaking total American Gobbeldy Gook!
Peer comment(s):

agree Dave Calderhead
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personnel management

Human resource management (HRM) is the strategic and coherent approach to the management of an organisation's most valued assets - the people working there who individually and collectively contribute to the achievement of the objectives of the business. The terms "human resource management" and "human resources" (HR) have largely replaced the term "personnel management" as a description of the processes involved in managing people in organizations. In simple sense, HRM means employing people, developing their resources, utilizing, maintaining and compensating their services in tune with the job and organizational requirement.

For a full discussion of the relationship between Human Resources Management and Personnel Management see A Handbook of Human Resource Mangement Practice by Michael Anderson (2nd reference below).

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Note added at 16 hrs (2009-05-26 08:35:49 GMT)
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Dictionary translation of beleid is: conduct, management, policy. Management and policy are both acceptable translations of that word. To try and suggest that management is an incorrect translation and that policy is the correct translation is a falsification of the facts. The answer suggested by me relies on the terminology in a published authoritative work on the subject.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Bruce Gordon : 'management' is not the same as 'policy'...
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The difference is moot. The point is that experts writing on the subject use "Personnel Management" in contradistinction to "Human Resources Management" to designate the more modern shift in emphasis towards a more people-orientated policy.
agree Kitty Brussaard : See also my reference comment
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Thank you, Kitty, and also for providing additional reference material which articulates so clearly the use of this term.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

personnel management vs. human resources management

IMO the more conventional approach is best described as 'personnel management'. See for instance the reference below.

Differences between Personnel Management (PM) and Human Resources Management (HRM).
1. Personnel mean employed persons of an organization. Management of these people is personnel management (PM). Human resource management (HRM) is the management of employees’ knowledge, aptitudes, abilities, talents, creative abilities and skills/competencies.
2. PM is traditional, routine, maintenance-oriented, administrative function whereas HRM is continuous, on-going development function aimed at improving human processes.
3. PM is an independent function with independent sub-functions. HRM follows the systems thinking approach. It is not considered in isolation from the larger organization and must take into account the linkages and interfaces.
(...)
http://strategic-functions-hrm.blogspot.com/
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Textpertise : Yes, well characterised.
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