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Dutch term or phrase:
Pensioensalaris vs pensioengrondslag
English translation:
pensionable salary vs pension base
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Johan Venter
Feb 20, 2008 22:20
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Dutch term
Pensioensalaris vs pensioengrondslag
Dutch to English
Bus/Financial
Finance (general)
Pension Fund
I am currently working on a document related to a pension fund for employees. I translated **pensioensalaris** as pensionable salary, which I thought was correct, especially if you consider this part taken from the text (definition of terms):
**Pensioensalaris**
De som van 13 maal de vastgestelde maandverdienste en de vastgestelde vakantietoeslag.
I have now come across the following section, however, which has completely taken the wind from my sails:
De **pensioengrondslag** is gelijk aan het pensioensalaris verminderd met de franchise. Een negatieve pensioengrondslag wordt gelijk gesteld aan nul.
So clearly there is a difference between **pensioengrondslag** and **pensioensalaris**, which I think is pretty well defined here. I am pretty sure that pensioengrondslag = pensionable salary, which is also conmfirmed by Van Dale, but then what about pensioensalaris?
TIA
**Pensioensalaris**
De som van 13 maal de vastgestelde maandverdienste en de vastgestelde vakantietoeslag.
I have now come across the following section, however, which has completely taken the wind from my sails:
De **pensioengrondslag** is gelijk aan het pensioensalaris verminderd met de franchise. Een negatieve pensioengrondslag wordt gelijk gesteld aan nul.
So clearly there is a difference between **pensioengrondslag** and **pensioensalaris**, which I think is pretty well defined here. I am pretty sure that pensioengrondslag = pensionable salary, which is also conmfirmed by Van Dale, but then what about pensioensalaris?
TIA
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pensionable salary vs pension base
are the translations I have been using for the last few years at one of the "Big 4" auditing/consulting firms in the many translations for client companies cutting over their pension schemes to average pay and defined contribution schemes.
The pension base is the pensionable salary minus the 'franchise' (i.e. pension paid on the salary above the relevant state old age pension level or similar).
The pension base is the pensionable salary minus the 'franchise' (i.e. pension paid on the salary above the relevant state old age pension level or similar).
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jarry (X)
: Unilever and Royal Dutch Shell use 'pensionable base', as indeed do I.
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Thanks, Jarry (:-{)> Good to hear that - tricky things, these pensions ;D
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Buck
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Thanks, Buck (:-{)>
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Michael Beijer
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pensionable pay elements vs pensionable salary
Pensionable Salary:
Your Pensionable Salary is the sum of your Basic Salary and any other pensionable pay elements using the Pre PensionSMART values in every case. In other words, your Pensionable Salary and all entitlements to benefits under the USS are unaffected by PensionSMART.
Other Pensionable Pay elements:
Under PensionSMART any other pensionable pay elements you receive will also be reduced by 6.35% and in return an equivalent amount will be paid by the College as an employer pension contribution into the USS.
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/hr/workingatimperial/pensionschem...
Your Pensionable Salary is the sum of your Basic Salary and any other pensionable pay elements using the Pre PensionSMART values in every case. In other words, your Pensionable Salary and all entitlements to benefits under the USS are unaffected by PensionSMART.
Other Pensionable Pay elements:
Under PensionSMART any other pensionable pay elements you receive will also be reduced by 6.35% and in return an equivalent amount will be paid by the College as an employer pension contribution into the USS.
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/hr/workingatimperial/pensionschem...
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jarry (X)
: While your answer is perfectly correct in UK context, in the Netherlands 'pensionable base' is often used to indicate pensionable salary (or pensionable pay) less the amount deducted ("franchise") for the general state pension (AOW).
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Pensionable salary vs benefit compensation base OR pensionable wage
I found 'pensioengrondslag' on IATE (see link)
+ I found an interesting document on pensionable salary
Hope that helps!
+ I found an interesting document on pensionable salary
Hope that helps!
Reference:
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQueryEdit.do
http://www.barnett-waddingham.co.uk/cms/services/pensionsadmin/news06015/viewDocument
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see this very useful infographic: http://beijer.uk/screenshots/pensionable-salary-(Pensioensal...
(src: http://www.pdnpensioen.nl/Sites/AlgPDN/documents/Documenten/... )
(src: http://www.pdnpensioen.nl/Sites/AlgPDN/documents/Documenten/... )
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(src: http://www.pdnpensioen.nl/Sites/AlgPDN/documents/Documenten/... )
Het gedeelte van het loon, dat de grondslag vormt voor de pensioenopbouw van een deelnemer.
http://www.watsonwyatt.com/europe/netherlands/research/gripp...
Term waarmee in loonafhankelijke pensioenregelingen wordt aangegeven welke elementen in de totale beloning van een deelnemer meetellen bij het bepalen van de op te bouwen pensioenaanspraken.