Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
"diner pensant"
English translation:
dinner debate
Added to glossary by
Chris Hopley
Dec 3, 2004 12:39
19 yrs ago
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Dutch term
Netherlands
Dutch & German to English
Native in: English (Variants: US, Australian, Canadian, New Zealand, British, UK, Irish)
Works in: German to English, Dutch to English, Flemish to English, and 1 more.
"diner pensant"
Dutch to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
business meeting
It looks like a French term, but a Google search reveals almost exclusively Dutch websites (as well as the odd Dunglish one). As the word suggests, it is a dinner where the guests are invited to discuss and exchange ideas on a given topic. Who can help me find an acceptable English translation for this?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | conference dinner |
Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
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| 4 +7 | working dinner |
Wolter Jetten
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| 2 +5 | Round table dinner |
writeaway
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| 3 +4 | brainstorming dinner |
Paul Peeraerts
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| 4 +2 | discussion dinner |
Joost Simons
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| 4 | informational dinner |
AllisonK (X)
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| 3 -1 | mental meal |
Willemina Hagenauw
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| 1 | topical dinner |
Klaus Hartmann
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Proposed translations
+2
20 hrs
Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in English
Specializes in field
Netherlands
Tailoring to your specific needs
Native in: English
Works in: Dutch to English
Related KudoZ points
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27
Dutch term (edited):
diner pensant
Selected
conference dinner
You could place the topic in front, ie. Management conference dinner, Innovative Ideas conference dinner, etc. etc.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Hi Siobhan, thanks for this. In the end, I went for 'dinner debate'. You get the points because when I read 'place the topic in front', I thought: why not place 'dinner' in front! So yours was the 'most helpful answer'!"
+5
9 mins
Round table dinner
just a suggestion. imho, round table covers the aspects of exchange of ideas and discussion. plus is not really an invented term.
Hyperion : Executive Round Table Dinner
Nirvana Executive Round Table Dinner, ... Hyperion moderators will lead Round Table discussions while an superb 4-course dinner is served. ...
www.hyperion.com/nirvana/ nl_nirvana_roundtable_dinner.cfm
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Note added at 12 mins (2004-12-03 12:51:44 GMT)
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[PDF] Dr. Peter Witterauf, Key Note Speech at Dinner Round Table EU ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Page 1. 1 Dr. Peter Witterauf, Key Note Speech at Dinner Round Table Managing Director, Hanns-Seidel-Foundation, Munich, Germany (October 20 th , 2004) ...
www.hss.de/downloads/1bASEAN-Bruessel-Rede-HGF.PDF
European Neutron-Muon Portal
... Thursday 11 May 2000 ENSA meeting followed by joint ENSA - EU round-table dinner Friday 12 May 2000 9:00 - 10:30 Joint ENSA and EU Round-table Session - News ...
neutron.neutron-eu.net/n_nmi3/ n_round_table_-_fp5/n_agendas_and_minutes/224 -
A Carfax Publishing Title: The Round Table - Hodson Memorial Prize
... country in which The Round Table holds activities, it is hoped that the prizewinner may be invited to take part (eg by attending a Round Table dinner). ...
www.tandf.co.uk/journals/authors/ctrt_hodson.html
Hyperion : Executive Round Table Dinner
Nirvana Executive Round Table Dinner, ... Hyperion moderators will lead Round Table discussions while an superb 4-course dinner is served. ...
www.hyperion.com/nirvana/ nl_nirvana_roundtable_dinner.cfm
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Note added at 12 mins (2004-12-03 12:51:44 GMT)
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[PDF] Dr. Peter Witterauf, Key Note Speech at Dinner Round Table EU ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Page 1. 1 Dr. Peter Witterauf, Key Note Speech at Dinner Round Table Managing Director, Hanns-Seidel-Foundation, Munich, Germany (October 20 th , 2004) ...
www.hss.de/downloads/1bASEAN-Bruessel-Rede-HGF.PDF
European Neutron-Muon Portal
... Thursday 11 May 2000 ENSA meeting followed by joint ENSA - EU round-table dinner Friday 12 May 2000 9:00 - 10:30 Joint ENSA and EU Round-table Session - News ...
neutron.neutron-eu.net/n_nmi3/ n_round_table_-_fp5/n_agendas_and_minutes/224 -
A Carfax Publishing Title: The Round Table - Hodson Memorial Prize
... country in which The Round Table holds activities, it is hoped that the prizewinner may be invited to take part (eg by attending a Round Table dinner). ...
www.tandf.co.uk/journals/authors/ctrt_hodson.html
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
seaMount
20 mins
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| agree |
sylvie malich (X)
: I like it
1 hr
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| agree |
Ken Cox
: if it's a relatively formal event
1 hr
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well, Chris talks about guests, not employees so I assume it's not necessarily people working on a given project together-more of an exchange of ideas.
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| agree |
df49f (X)
2 hrs
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| agree |
Arsen Nazarian
4 hrs
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| neutral |
Tina Vonhof (X)
: It's a nice suggestion but if I were invited to one, I would think it was a dinner where people sit at round tables, i.e. for meeting people and networking.
5 hrs
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have you seen my refs? a working dinner is usually just that-working on a project, not just discussing ideas.there are guests mentioned, not employees. I think it's a serious exchange of ideas, but not necessarily for a particular project.
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| neutral |
Fred ten Berge
: Not too much related to the Round Table organization?
13 hrs
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+7
19 mins
Wolter Jetten
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
Specializes in field
Netherlands
EN-NL - legal, medical, IT, etc.
Native in: Dutch (Variant: Netherlands)
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English
Dutch term (edited):
diner pensant
working dinner
We also call this a "werkdiner" in Dutch.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
seaMount
: looks also appropriate (how about "thought for food" ?;-)
13 mins
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| agree |
Iris70
13 mins
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| agree |
Ken Cox
: if it's a relatively informal event
1 hr
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| agree |
Robert Kleemaier
: this is what is used in EU contexts, specifically during the now nearly completed Dutch Presidency
4 hrs
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| agree |
Tina Vonhof (X)
: the most neutral term.
4 hrs
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| agree |
11thmuse
8 hrs
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| neutral |
Fred ten Berge
: Too neutral?
13 hrs
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| agree |
Mirjam Bonne-Nollen
1 day 23 hrs
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+4
32 mins
Paul Peeraerts
Native in Dutch
Works in field
Native in: Dutch 
Works in: German to Dutch, Esperanto to Dutch, French to Dutch, and 7 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
11
Dutch term (edited):
diner pensant
brainstorming dinner
Also "brainstorming dinner meeting", "brainstorming dinner gathering".
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
: agree with Tina.
57 mins
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| agree |
Jacqueline van der Spek
: wel een leuke variant op "diner dansant", originele brontekst!
4 hrs
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| agree |
Arsen Nazarian
4 hrs
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| neutral |
Robert Kleemaier
: Without further context, I'd be hesitant to use this creation, though I fully agree with Jacqueline as to the etymology of the term
4 hrs
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| agree |
Tina Vonhof (X)
: only if it really is for the purpose of brainstorming, not just 'discussion'.
4 hrs
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| agree |
Fred ten Berge
: Fully agree! These are the expressions most frequently heard from English (and North American) business friends.
13 hrs
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+2
40 mins
Joost Simons
Native in Dutch
Swift, reliable and reasonably priced
Native in: Dutch
Works in: Dutch to English, English to Dutch
discussion dinner
Another suggestion. Quite a lot of references to it on the internet, too. I like the suggested term 'round table dinner' as well, it's an elegant translation, but I'm not quite sure if you can rely on the average reader to know what is meant by it.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Arsen Nazarian
: also fine.
4 hrs
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Thanks!
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| agree |
trautlady
10 hrs
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Thanks
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| neutral |
Fred ten Berge
: Too neutral?
13 hrs
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-1
43 mins
Willemina Hagenauw
Native in Dutch
Specializes in field
30+ years experience - accurate and fast
Native in: Dutch
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English, Flemish to English
Related KudoZ points
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21
Dutch term (edited):
diner pensant
mental meal
If you wanted something slightly more different... a bit more jokey!
Just a suggestion
Just a suggestion
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jacqueline van der Spek
: nice!
3 hrs
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Dank je!
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| disagree |
Arsen Nazarian
: This associated with the expression "food for thought" which is something else.
3 hrs
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| disagree |
df49f (X)
: & agree with Sevan
6 hrs
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2 hrs
Klaus Hartmann
Specializes in field
Precision and clarity
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, French to German, Romanian to German
Dutch term (edited):
diner pensant
topical dinner
Just a guess. Some good Google hits, IMO.
Link: "At each dinner meeting we offer a topical dinner speaker, whose topics often will address purchasing and materials management subjects, as well as ample ..."
"Alumni - If you are willing to share your experiences in public service with students by
participating in a class, panel discussion, topical dinner, or Homecoming alumni forum,
please contact Dr. David Marion at [email protected], or call (434)223-6240"
Link: "At each dinner meeting we offer a topical dinner speaker, whose topics often will address purchasing and materials management subjects, as well as ample ..."
"Alumni - If you are willing to share your experiences in public service with students by
participating in a class, panel discussion, topical dinner, or Homecoming alumni forum,
please contact Dr. David Marion at [email protected], or call (434)223-6240"
1 day 3 hrs
Dutch term (edited):
diner pensant
informational dinner
another option - there are informational meetings, seminars, etc. and from what I've seen of this term and its use, this appears to be what it is - the exchange of information.
Plenty of references using this term:
... Is the holding of an informational dinner for minority students proper? ... 3. Is the
holding of an informational dinner for minority students proper? ...
www.naceweb.org/principles/resources/case9.htm - 15k
... Burlington, Massachusetts Please join us for an informational dinner, where many
interesting topics will ... Page 3. 3 COFAR INFORMATIONAL DINNER REGISTRATION FORM ...
www.cofar-mass.org/files/dinner_invitation.pdf -
... Full use of a personal 17' whaler-styled boat. Informational dinner held in Ballard
Washington. ... PSFF WILL cover food expenses for the informational dinner. ...
www.pugetsoundflyfishing.com/Posts/WeighWest2004.htm - 16k
... our video presentation on the website soon. Informational Dinner a Sucess!
posted by Dan on 27 Jun 2004 Saturday evening we held ...
www.youthmanagedcafe.org/index.php?start_ from=5&ucat=&archive=&subaction=&id=& - 14k - 2 dec 2004
... This will be an informational dinner also and we will have a guest there to answer
questions about the Bounce 4v4 Tournament. When: Wednesday, November 17th. ...
www.eastorangesoccer.com/coach_dinner.html - 24k
Plenty of references using this term:
... Is the holding of an informational dinner for minority students proper? ... 3. Is the
holding of an informational dinner for minority students proper? ...
www.naceweb.org/principles/resources/case9.htm - 15k
... Burlington, Massachusetts Please join us for an informational dinner, where many
interesting topics will ... Page 3. 3 COFAR INFORMATIONAL DINNER REGISTRATION FORM ...
www.cofar-mass.org/files/dinner_invitation.pdf -
... Full use of a personal 17' whaler-styled boat. Informational dinner held in Ballard
Washington. ... PSFF WILL cover food expenses for the informational dinner. ...
www.pugetsoundflyfishing.com/Posts/WeighWest2004.htm - 16k
... our video presentation on the website soon. Informational Dinner a Sucess!
posted by Dan on 27 Jun 2004 Saturday evening we held ...
www.youthmanagedcafe.org/index.php?start_ from=5&ucat=&archive=&subaction=&id=& - 14k - 2 dec 2004
... This will be an informational dinner also and we will have a guest there to answer
questions about the Bounce 4v4 Tournament. When: Wednesday, November 17th. ...
www.eastorangesoccer.com/coach_dinner.html - 24k
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