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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

litsenmaaier; draadmaaier; opslagmaaier

English translation:

sucker remover; suckering machine; tractor mounted strimmer

Added to glossary by Michael Beijer
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Oct 16, 2023 13:34
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Dutch term

Litsenmaaier

Dutch to English Other Agriculture
This is in a list of machines that can be used in soil management. In this case, it is at a vineyard.

For purpose: 'Staat het onkruid wat te hoog om mechanisch te schoffelen dan is de litsenmaaier ideaal. Speciaal ontwikkeld voor het maaien van onkruid op de zwarte strook ...'

As further explanation: 'Bij de litsenmaaier kan je heel diverse veters installeren, gaande van lang en smal tot dik en hard. Zeker voor jonge bomen moet je zachte veters gebruiken.'

Does anyone have any idea what the English term is for this type of machine?

Many thanks,
Justine
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 strimmer mower; mower with strimmer heads; string mower
4 boom mower
References
litsen => lussen
Change log

Oct 16, 2023 13:46: writeaway changed "Field" from "Other" to "Tech/Engineering"

Oct 16, 2023 14:16: philgoddard changed "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Other" , "Field (write-in)" from "soil managment" to "(none)"

Oct 20, 2023 11:22: Michael Beijer Created KOG entry

Discussion

Marijke Singer Oct 20, 2023:
Lits is a "lus" in Flemish. https://www.vlaamswoordenboek.be/definities/term/lits
They refer to them as veters too. I think the attachment has several of these veters while a strimmer normally has one. Sorry it took so long to respond Michael. I was busy with a very technical translation...
Barend van Zadelhoff Oct 17, 2023:
@Michael Interesting these Rinieri links of yours. Good work.

Also see: https://tinyurl.com/4vdu5nt3
Michael Beijer Oct 17, 2023:
AKA "suckering machine"
Michael Beijer Oct 17, 2023:
net eentje gevonden! "opslagmaaier"

zie bijv.:
• https://fruitteeltmaaier.nl/product/rinieri-srv-e2-opslagmaa...
• https://fruitteeltmaaier.nl/product/rinieri-srv-opslagmaaier...
Michael Beijer Oct 17, 2023:
ha ha, yeah, OK, you've convinced me :-) "sucker remover" seems to be a pretty perfect translation. not exactly all over the internet, but then again, these things are quite a niche product. there are probably other names used to describe these machines, in both Dutch and English.
Barend van Zadelhoff Oct 17, 2023:
@ Michael As you said: 'just "strimmer" is the thing my wife and I use for the lawn' :-)

If you compare the 'litsenmaaier' in Sindy's video with the 'sucker remover' in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTejvyav86U, you will see they are exactly the same, and both them having 'whips' / 'flails'.

The primary function of both them is the removal of suckers (could it get any better :-))
And they both have the additional effect of removing stuff at the basis of the vines.

Als see alternative forms of sucker removers.
Them also having 'whips' / 'flails'.

https://agrishieldllc.com/vineyard/vineyard-sucker-remover/
Michael Beijer Oct 17, 2023:
hi Barend! But in a sense, since the machine (the "litsenmaaier") also removes opslag (weeds), in addition to the suckers, calling it a "sucker remover" might be too limited. Since these "litsen" refer to lussen, i.e., to the nylon cutting cords (see def. of "strimmer" below), it would probably be good to include this aspect in the translation. Having said that, it appears that this term was invented by this one Belgian company, so we shouldn't worry all too much about finding an official/standard English translation.

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Oxforddictionaries.com:

strimmer:

A powered grass trimmer with a nylon cutting cord which rotates rapidly on a spindle.

Origin: 1970s: probably a blend of string and trimmer.
Barend van Zadelhoff Oct 17, 2023:
I would like to add:

'strimming' is een neveneffect.

Als vervolg op de D-box entry van 12:28:

Thanks to the action of the flails mounted on the rotor, the sucker remover takes off the young shoots at the base of the vines, physically tearing off the suckers, an action that takes place without damaging the base of plants. But they also work on the spontaneous grasses and weeds that grow on the row and around the bases of vines, acting as a sort of strimmer.



https://www.rinieri.com/eng/blog/13/the-sucker-remover-a-val...
Justine Meredith (asker) Oct 17, 2023:
Thanks for your suggestion, Barend. I had to deliver this morning but will keep this is mind for a future date.
Barend van Zadelhoff Oct 17, 2023:
Vergelijk met de 'litsenmaaier' (@3:30) + de uitleg die wordt gegeven (verwijdering van zijscheuten) hier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTejvyav86U

https://www.rinieri.com/eng/blog/13/the-sucker-remover-a-val...
Barend van Zadelhoff Oct 17, 2023:
Also see + image

THE SUCKER REMOVER IN THE VINEYARD
Sucker removal is one of the green pruning operations of the vineyard and represents an essential intervention for management of the vine.

In fact, letting the suckers overgrow has the negative effect of dispersing most of the plant's nutrients. But they also represent a potential health problem, as they can promote the onset of diseases.

The use of a sucker remover allows mechanising of the sucker removal operations thereby maximising the productive potential of the plants and facilitating the subsequent cultivation practices. In addition, it keeps the vineyard rows clean and tidy quickly and efficiently.

https://www.rinieri.com/eng/blog/13/the-sucker-remover-a-val...
Barend van Zadelhoff Oct 17, 2023:
Het gaat om dit apparaat:

een side-sucker remover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n5Hr36P4R4
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
and another one (Clemens Multiclean) https://npseymour.co.uk/products/clemens-multiclean/ (second image)
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
~ OK, this one looks very similar to Sindy's machine: https://www.agriexpo.online/prod/rcm-srl/product-179554-1525... (with a rotary part with wires on it)
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
getting close these two look sort of similar to the machine shown in Sindy's YouTube video @ 3:30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTejvyav86U )

https://www.vitifruitequipment.co.uk/index.php/inter_vine_cu...
https://www.vitifruitequipment.co.uk/index.php/strimmer/?k=:...
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
@Sindy: indeed, I forgot to look on https://www.vlaamswoordenboek.be/ etc. to see if listen/lits was Belgian usage
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
@Justine: Since this Belgian company "Induma" seems to be the only person using this term on the internet it would probably be a good idea to ask them exactly what they mean by the term, and if they perhaps have their own English translation of it.

see e.g.: https://indumabvba.be/nl/fruitteeltmachines/onkruidbestrijdi...
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
@Marijke: I followed that trail too and arrived at "boom mower" (via the French from that website). However, I couldn't link it back to any Dutch word "lits" or "litsen". Any idea where this "lits/litsen" came from?
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
also called "string mower", e.g. https://www.agrimarketia.com/product/bfm-db12-in-row-mower/
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
veters I am pretty sure the "veters" are just the strings used in the strimmer heads, which come in various thicknesses.
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
see also: https://www.vitifruitequipment.co.uk/index.php/strimmer/?k=:... ("TRACTOR MOUNTED STRIMMER")
philgoddard Oct 16, 2023:
Yes, litsenmaaier doesn't get many hits.
The thing Brits call a strimmer and Americans a weed whacker?
Veters are strings.
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
strimmer mower / mower with strimmer heads? these things are called "variable width mower with strimmer heads" e.g. @ https://kirklanduk.com/product/ilmer-lmg-195-variable-width-...
Michael Beijer Oct 16, 2023:
hmm, typo might author have meant to type:

"lintenmaaier"? (i.e. draadmaaier)

see e.g.: https://tractoren.info/tag/lintenmaaier/

Proposed translations

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29 mins
Dutch term (edited): litsenmaaier; draadmaaier/lintenmaaier
Selected

strimmer mower; mower with strimmer heads; string mower

See my various comments. I'm pretty sure this is what is meant here.

litsenmaaier = draadmaaier/lintenmaaier

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and a more descriptive translation:

tractor mounted intervine tool with rotary strimmer heads
Note from asker:
Thanks, Michael. Your suggestions appear to cover it.
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard
11 mins
Thanks Phil! still a mysterious term. wonder where lits/litsen comes from...
agree Richard Purdom : 'Strimmer' will do, mower is redundant
17 hrs
thanks Richard, but I think strimmer on its own might not be quite enough. if it was my text I'd probably call it a "tractor mounted strimmer"
agree sindy cremer : I like 'tractor mounted strimmer' as in your vitifruit link. Definitely not simply 'strimmer' - that's what I use for the part of the lawn that the mower can't reach.https://www.gardenersworld.com/reviews/lawn-care/best-strimm...
18 hrs
thanks! yeah, I think "tractor mounted strimmer" is probably the best we can do here. agree, just "strimmer" is the thing my wife and I use for the lawn
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1 hr

boom mower

On https://indumabvba.be/fr/actualite/mechanische-onkruidbestri...
you can find the French: faucheuse à flèche

On https://canadabuys.canada.ca/en/tender-opportunities/tender-...
You can find the French and English
boom mower
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Reference comments

5 hrs
Reference:

litsen => lussen

https://tinyurl.com/3zbrduv8



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https://www.ensie.nl/betekenis/litsen

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"'Het gras dichtbij de bomen wordt onder handen genomen met een litsenmaaier: dit hydraulisch aangedreven toestel maait het onkruid zeer kort af door snel draaiende zweepjes." https://biomijnnatuur.be/nieuws/portret-yvan-verhememdonck

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTejvyav86U&ab_channel=pcfru...

at 3:30

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https://www.ridgewine.com/about/news/what-is-suckering/
"Following bud-break, after the weather warms up, there is a rapid acceleration of shoot growth. Suckering involves removing weak, sick, or poorly located vine shoots. These shoots are then clipped off from the vines to make room for healthy shoots to fully develop."

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The litsenmaaier may look the same as a suckering machine but in a text about weed removal, it would be wrong to call it that, imo.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Michael Beijer : wow, nice and clear in the video (@3:30). but what is such a thing called? this looks pretty similar: https://www.vitifruitequipment.co.uk/index.php/strimmer/?k=:...
52 mins
Not a clue :D - I like 'tractor mounted strimmer'
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : called: 'sucker remover' / Je kunt het ook omdraaien: die sucker remover wordt in dit geval 'off-label' gebruikt, op grond van zijn neven-effect. Het blijft echter een sucker remover. Zie Rinieri links, e.g. https://tinyurl.com/4vccj7r5
16 hrs
SORRY FOR LATE RESPONSE ... hm, I'm not too sure - sucker removal involves removing young vine shoots (see my ridgewine ref) - a litsenmaaier appears to target weeds
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