Apr 13, 2023 14:53
1 yr ago
14 viewers *
English term
Iran
Translator of Ideas
Native in: Persian (Farsi) 
Works in: English to Persian (Farsi), Persian (Farsi) to English
Demonstrator Lab
English to Persian (Farsi)
Social Sciences
Management
It investigates the micro-foundations, or, specific origins, of the dynamic capabilities of university technology transfer by studying two UTT cases at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam in Netherlands: the Industry Alliance Office (IAO) and the Demonstrator Lab (D-lab).
Proposed translations
(Persian (Farsi))
| 5 | آزمایشگاه کارآفرینی |
Fahimeh Mohsenizadeh
|
| 4 | آزمایشگاه تجسم‌بخشی/تجسم ایده‌ها |
Mohammad Ghaffari
|
| 5 -2 | آزمایشگاه ارائهٔ نمونهٔ صنعتی |
Kourosh Fallah
|
Proposed translations
59 mins
Fahimeh Mohsenizadeh
Native in Persian (Farsi)
Works in field
Experienced qualified Farsi translator
Native in: Persian (Farsi)
Works in: English to Persian (Farsi), French to Persian (Farsi), Persian (Farsi) to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
2
Selected
آزمایشگاه کارآفرینی
Then Demonstrator Lab is the entrepreneurship laboratory where you can transform your ideas into a tangible product or service. Demonstrator Lab is a learning-by-doing environment open to students and staff members. Its goal is to foster an entrepreneurial culture in Amsterdams higher education ecosystem and to boost research driven innovation by giving its members the opportunity to get their feet wet at no cost.
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 5 days (2023-04-19 09:19:21 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
آزمایشگاه نوآفرینی هم گزینه مناسبی است
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 5 days (2023-04-19 09:19:21 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
آزمایشگاه نوآفرینی هم گزینه مناسبی است
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Sophie Meis
5 days
|
|
Thank you
|
|
| disagree |
Kourosh Fallah
: Enterpreneurship labs (آزمایشگاه کارآفرینی) are for creation of STARTUP COMPANIES, which is different from a DEMONSTRATOR lab, although there are similarities.// "https://mitsloan.mit.edu/action-learning/entrepreneurship-la..."// PS: tit-for-tat?!!
5 days
|
|
I disagree with your equivalent too. Please check the reference that I shared.
|
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
1 hr
Mohammad Ghaffari
Native in Persian (Farsi)
Works in field
Tech-savvy, detail-oriented | AVT, L10N
Native in: Persian (Farsi) 
Works in: English to Persian (Farsi), Persian (Farsi) to English, Dari to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
48
آزمایشگاه تجسم‌بخشی/تجسم ایده‌ها
Entrepreneurship laboratory for transforming ideas into innovative products and services
Demonstrator Lab is a learning-by-doing environment open to students, researchers and staff. Its goal is to foster an entrepreneurial culture within the Amsterdam higher education ecosystem and to boost research driven innovation.
Participants enter the lab at the very early phase of the idea-to-market process. Demonstrator Lab supports their participants throughout this entire process: from forming a team, to developing a prototype. From working out the most efficient marketing strategy to find the resources needed to deploy that strategy. Participants have the opportunity to get their feet wet at no cost. Supported by a vast network, Demonstrator Lab provides them with the business tools to explore whether an idea can make it. As the saying goes, there is no failure: you either succeed or you learn.
Based on these lines, and especially with reference to "developing a prototype", I suggest "آزمایشگاه تجسم‌بخشی", but keeping it in English is also okay.
We can translate it in other ways as well, such as "آزمایشگاه پیش‌نمونه‌سازی/نمونه‌سازی" (they develop prototypes (پیش‌نمونه/نمونه اولیه) there, after all), or even "آزمایشگاه نمونه‌سازی خلاقانه", but since "demonstrator" talks about the idea in a general way, I'd personally go with something like those I suggested.
Demonstrator Lab is a learning-by-doing environment open to students, researchers and staff. Its goal is to foster an entrepreneurial culture within the Amsterdam higher education ecosystem and to boost research driven innovation.
Participants enter the lab at the very early phase of the idea-to-market process. Demonstrator Lab supports their participants throughout this entire process: from forming a team, to developing a prototype. From working out the most efficient marketing strategy to find the resources needed to deploy that strategy. Participants have the opportunity to get their feet wet at no cost. Supported by a vast network, Demonstrator Lab provides them with the business tools to explore whether an idea can make it. As the saying goes, there is no failure: you either succeed or you learn.
Based on these lines, and especially with reference to "developing a prototype", I suggest "آزمایشگاه تجسم‌بخشی", but keeping it in English is also okay.
We can translate it in other ways as well, such as "آزمایشگاه پیش‌نمونه‌سازی/نمونه‌سازی" (they develop prototypes (پیش‌نمونه/نمونه اولیه) there, after all), or even "آزمایشگاه نمونه‌سازی خلاقانه", but since "demonstrator" talks about the idea in a general way, I'd personally go with something like those I suggested.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Sajad Neisi
3 hrs
|
|
Thank you!
|
|
| disagree |
Kourosh Fallah
: Demonstartor is "a person who DEMONSTRATES a product (such as an automobile) used to demonstrate performance or merits to prospective buyers"// https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demonstrator//, The suggestions are not accurate.//PS: "creative"?!!
1 day 20 hrs
|
|
It's about Demonstrator Lab, not "demonstrator" alone (https://demonstratorlab.nl). I tried to come up with something similarly creative in Persian. Besides, I have thoroughly explained the reasoning behind my choice. So, let's agree to disagree.
|
-2
1 hr
Kourosh Fallah
Native in Persian (Farsi)
veritas odit moras
Native in: Persian (Farsi) (Variant: Iranian (standard))
Works in: English, Persian (Farsi), English to Persian (Farsi), and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
4
آزمایشگاه ارائهٔ نمونهٔ صنعتی
This is where the students or staff create a representable demo as a proof of concept for their marketable ideas.
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 days 12 hrs (2023-04-16 03:42:13 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
I just added the meanings of 'manufacturing' and 'prototype' in the discussion area to clarify them.
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 days 12 hrs (2023-04-16 03:42:13 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
I just added the meanings of 'manufacturing' and 'prototype' in the discussion area to clarify them.
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Mohammad Ghaffari
: As far as I know, نمونه صنعتی in Persian refers to a manufactured product, so this interpretation is kind of limiting D-Lab's scope. Some of their projects like ImRheo (here: https://t.ly/G_bW) would be out of scope then.
2 days 3 hrs
|
|
'A manufactured product' is INDUSTRIALLY produced, in large quantities, not نمونه. You example aims to build a PROTOTYPE rheometer, a device to measure fulid properties, in a uni lab. May I suggest reading things carefully before becoming 'creative'?
|
|
| disagree |
Fahimeh Mohsenizadeh
: If you check the explanations about Demonstrator lab, you can see that the main feature of this lab is to grow creativity and new ideas but your equivalent doesn't convey this meaning
5 days
|
|
If you've read the post, you'd have seen that reference is right there! You're speculating (overtranslating) which could lead to mistranslation. Transltors are not at liberty to change things based on speculation or thinking that it would look fancy.
|
Discussion
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis...
A PROTOTYPE is "an EARLY SAMPLE, model, or release of a product built to test a concept or process."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype
"Demonstrator" is a person that DEMONSTRATES a product (such as an automobile) used to demonstrate performance or merits to PROSPECTIVE BUYERS.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demonstrator