Feb 2, 2023 11:59
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French term

hémivertébral

French to English Law/Patents Medical: Instruments spinal mapping
Context:
Dans la forme de réalisation considérée sur les figures 5 à 7, l’élément vertébral de localisation 50 présente la spécificité d’être hémivertébral, dans le sens où, comme également expliqué par la suite, il est conçu pour être appliqué exclusivement sur une moitié, gauche ou droite, de la vertèbre à laquelle il est associé, sans interagir avec l’autre moitié de cette vertèbre. A titre d’exemple illustré sur les figures 5 à 7, l’élément vertébral de localisation 50 est ainsi spécifiquement adapté à l’hémivertèbre droite de la vertèbre V1.

Translated as "hemivertebral, " which I think is incorrect.
I think it means that it can be applied to half of the vertebra, as in last phrase which should read "right half of the vertebra" and not "right hemivertebra".
TIA for your thoughts, Chris.

Discussion

Johannes Gleim Feb 5, 2023:
@ Jenniver except for medical translators.
Jennifer Levey Feb 2, 2023:
@Johannes Your last two posts here are OT. No-one here is looking for alternative (medical) terms for left and right.
Johannes Gleim Feb 2, 2023:
and for 'left'
The radiographs were digitized and analyzed for a horizontal displacement of T12 from the second sacral tubercle, verticality of the lumbar spine at the sacral base, and any dextro/levo angle at mid-lumbar spine.
https://patrickdobbins.com/storage/app/media/CollocaWhitePap...

File:Cerebral angiography, arteria vertebralis sinister injection.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cerebral_angiography...
Johannes Gleim Feb 2, 2023:
Some medical terms for 'right' … of the longitudinal axis of the human corpus from unity with the perpendicular faux-meridian towards conformity with identity with the para-dextro-perpendicular dextro-faux meridian constitutively
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343044047_Structure...

The case is reported of a male baby with a decreased time average velocity of the basilar artery to 32%, measured by Doppler sonography in dextro-rotated head position.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15046289/
Drmanu49 Feb 2, 2023:
Perfectly clear when the right words are used and hemivertebra (an anomaly) or hemivertebral are definbitely not.
philgoddard Feb 2, 2023:
It's perfectly clear. It says right or left, not anterior or posterior, or upper and lower. It's also clear from the context that it doesn't refer to an anomaly.

I wouldn't use hemivertebral either, but that doesn't make it wrong. And your translation is a circular statement, like saying "black is black".
Drmanu49 Feb 2, 2023:
And hemivertebra is a type of vertebral anomaly as correctly pointed out by Jennifer.
Drmanu49 Feb 2, 2023:
Anatomy is very specific and semi-vertebral or hemivertebral if such a term was used (I would never use it) could refer to anterior or posterior, or to upper and lower half as in the refs given by Johannes. So in this case let's be specific.
philgoddard Feb 2, 2023:
Rebuke? Automobile? Petroleum? Television? I think not.
Jennifer Levey Feb 2, 2023:
'hemivertebral', composed of a Greek prefix and a Latin term, would be cause for rebuke from many linguists.
philgoddard Feb 2, 2023:
It's been coined by the writer for this specific context. Of course it's unnecessary technical jargon, because they then go on to explain it in plain language.

If you left out everything from "hémivertébral" to "est", which I'm not suggesting you do, the meaning would be the same.
Bashiqa (asker) Feb 2, 2023:
@ Phil Is hemivertebral a word?
philgoddard Feb 2, 2023:
I think you've made up your mind too soon. Hemivertebral is fine in my opinion, though obviously you would say "half of the vertebra" rather than "hemivertebra".
Bashiqa (asker) Feb 2, 2023:
@ Jennifer Thank you for the offer, it will now take me a long time to decide which charity. Have a good afternoon, Chris.
Jennifer Levey Feb 2, 2023:
I'll happily donate my 2 points to the charity of your choice :)
Bashiqa (asker) Feb 2, 2023:
can I give 2 points each to Manu and Jennifer? Manu spot on for first use and |Jennifer for last phrase. The original source text is incorrect by using "hemevertebre" when this context is not at all about hereditary problems.

Proposed translations

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right half of the vertebra

Likely confusion with this:
https://radiopaedia.org/articles/hemivertebra
Sep 11, 2022 — Hemivertebra is a type of vertebral anomaly and results from a lack of formation of one half of a vertebral body.

which doesn't fit your context.
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : The question is "hémivertébral", not "hémivertèbre".
1 hr
neutral liz askew : you are right about "hemivertebra" or "hemivertebral", these words are associated with abnormalities
3 hrs
neutral Johannes Gleim : ich vermisse mindestens eine Referenz für den Übersetzungsvorschlag
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can be applied to either right or left side of the vertebra

An asymmetrical inferior articular process of a lumbar vertebra
https://journals.viamedica.pl › article › download
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de S Das · 2006 · Cité 3 fois — the right side of the vertebra. Interestingly, an addi- tional tubercle (Fig. 2) near the inferior articular pro- cess was noted only on the left side.

Peer comment(s):

disagree philgoddard : This is an explanation, not a translation. You're effectively saying "can be applied to the right or left side of the vertebra, since it is designed to be applied to the right or left side of the vertebra".
1 hr
No Phil it is the correct translation."hemivertebral" or semivertebral" is wrong.
agree liz askew : I would avoid "hemivertebral" or semivertebral" but do what you have done.
3 hrs
Thank you Liz.
disagree Johannes Gleim : Your link relays to https://journals.viamedica.pl/index/index where no download is visible. And the homepage is in Polish.
4 hrs
That doesn't make it wrong!
neutral Jennifer Levey : No - a given 'élément vertébral de localisation' is designed for only one side of the vertebra. IOW, they are 'handed', as in left-handed' and 'right-handed', not 'ambidextrous' (if JG will pardon my adaptation of the meaning of that word).
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semi-vertebral

Hemivertebra is a congenital (present from birth) anomaly of the spine in which only one half of the vertebral body develops. It occurs in about 3 in 10,000 births. It is a common cause of congenital scoliosis where the spine is curved sideways.
https://www.isuog.org/clinical-resources/patient-information...

Congenital vertebral anomalies are a collection of malformations of the spine. Most, around 85%, are not clinically significant, but they can cause compression of the spinal cord by deforming the vertebral canal or causing instability. This condition occurs in the womb. Congenital vertebral anomalies include alterations of the shape and number of vertebrae.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congenital_vertebral_anomaly

The utility model relates to the technical field of medical instruments, in particular to a novel manual semi-vertebral plate which comprises a vertebral plate base body (1) and fixing pieces (2)
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN202875539U/en

A horizontal cut was made through the middle of the two adjacent vertebrae. Thus, IVDs with upper and lower semi-vertebral bodies were placed between two parallel stainless steel plates and compressed.
https://cris.brighton.ac.uk/ws/files/7210077/Customised_mult...

Proposal for context translation: … the vertebral locating element 50 is thus specifically adapted to the right semi vertebra of vertebra V1.
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : Your first two references are not relevant, but the rest are. Hemivertebral is fine too.
1 hr
Thank you, but I prefer semi-vertebral instead of hemivertebral as this is too often described as an anomaly.
neutral liz askew : "hemivertebral" is not "fine".
2 hrs
No, I didn't use 'hemivertebral' as this is a anomaly.
disagree Drmanu49 : No this could be anterior and posterior segment, or as in your ref upper and lower half, wrong either way.
2 hrs
You may split semivertrebral into 'dextro-vertebral' and 'levo-vertebral' as with dextroscoliosis.
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
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