Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
suivant actes de Greffe
English translation:
according to entries on the (court) register; - Registrar\'s entries
Added to glossary by
Timothy Rake
Feb 16, 2017 05:02
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French term
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Works in: French to English, English to French
suivant actes de Greffe
French to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
court proceedings
this text appears in a court summons in Monaco...
"Pour presenter ses moyens, entendre requérir et voir statuer sur les appels interjetés tant par elle que par le Ministère public, à titre incident, suivant actes de Greffe du (date), du jugement contradictoire rendu par le Tribunal de ….du chef de violences volontaires"
Is this literally, "subsequent to proceedings of the Clerk..." or something of the sort?
"Pour presenter ses moyens, entendre requérir et voir statuer sur les appels interjetés tant par elle que par le Ministère public, à titre incident, suivant actes de Greffe du (date), du jugement contradictoire rendu par le Tribunal de ….du chef de violences volontaires"
Is this literally, "subsequent to proceedings of the Clerk..." or something of the sort?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | according to entries on the (court) register; - Registrar's entries |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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| 3 -1 | per court registry decisions dated... |
Nathalie Stewart
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Proposed translations
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5 hrs
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Works in field
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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451
Selected
according to entries on the (court) register; - Registrar's entries
You have to be very careful here. The Registrar record decisions and keeps the register. He does not make decisions. That is the judge's job.
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-16 14:11:40 GMT)
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BD is right to correct me here. In the UK, the term "Registrar" conveys a function which France's "Greffiers" do not have : to make decisions. For that reason, it is not good to use the term "registrar", or at least, not with a capital letter in the translation.
In any event, and most importantly, your source text containing the phrase "suivant actes de Greffe" is about the registrar having made entries on the registry and not about decisions having been made by a "greffier".
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-16 14:14:52 GMT)
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Note that the term "registrar" is used in a number of jurisdictions and that the funtions are not identical each time. The main thing to bear in mind here is of course to represent, as accurately as possible, the original text, here "actes de Greffe".
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-16 14:16:35 GMT)
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As WA also points out, the original is about the "Greffe", the registry, not the registrar.
My first suggestion is probably the more aaccurate of the two.
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-16 14:11:40 GMT)
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BD is right to correct me here. In the UK, the term "Registrar" conveys a function which France's "Greffiers" do not have : to make decisions. For that reason, it is not good to use the term "registrar", or at least, not with a capital letter in the translation.
In any event, and most importantly, your source text containing the phrase "suivant actes de Greffe" is about the registrar having made entries on the registry and not about decisions having been made by a "greffier".
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-16 14:14:52 GMT)
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Note that the term "registrar" is used in a number of jurisdictions and that the funtions are not identical each time. The main thing to bear in mind here is of course to represent, as accurately as possible, the original text, here "actes de Greffe".
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-16 14:16:35 GMT)
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As WA also points out, the original is about the "Greffe", the registry, not the registrar.
My first suggestion is probably the more aaccurate of the two.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Nikki - makes sense now |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Merci, Nikki"
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2 hrs
Nathalie Stewart
France
France
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English
Specializes in field
France
Medical and Legal translations
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Works in: English to French, French to English, Russian to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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37
per court registry decisions dated...
http://www.codes-et-lois.fr/code-de-l-organisation-judiciair...
Le directeur de greffe, les greffiers en chef adjoints, les greffiers de chambre, les chefs de services de greffe et les greffiers assistent les magistrats à l'audience et dans les cas prévus par les lois et règlements. Ils dressent les actes de greffe, notes et procès-verbaux dans les cas prévus par les lois et règlements.
http://www.legavox.fr/blog/fabrice-r-luciani/directeur-greff...
LE GREFFE DU TRIBUNAL DE COMMERCE
«...
Le greffier dirige, sous l'autorité du président du tribunal et sous la surveillance du ministère public, l'ensemble des services du greffe.
Il assure la tenue des différents registres prévus par les textes en vigueur et tient à jour les dossiers du tribunal. Il met en forme les décisions prises et motivées par les juges.
Il est dépositaire des minutes et archives dont il assure la conservation. Il délivre les expéditions et copies et a la garde des scellés et de toutes sommes déposées au greffe.
Il dresse les actes de greffe et procède aux formalités pour lesquelles compétence lui est attribuée.
EN court registry decision
http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d4899c50-52f0-...
http://www.regodobrenja.net/print_po.php?id=95&jezik=3&tip=
http://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/rights-...
A court registry decision is a decision taken by the judge only after the court session as a final judgment. The party to the proceedings can obtain
these decisions in writing from the court registry, or they can be communicated by mail by request.
Also possible:
court registry action
http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/id/lc/statreg/47_338_200...
https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
Le directeur de greffe, les greffiers en chef adjoints, les greffiers de chambre, les chefs de services de greffe et les greffiers assistent les magistrats à l'audience et dans les cas prévus par les lois et règlements. Ils dressent les actes de greffe, notes et procès-verbaux dans les cas prévus par les lois et règlements.
http://www.legavox.fr/blog/fabrice-r-luciani/directeur-greff...
LE GREFFE DU TRIBUNAL DE COMMERCE
«...
Le greffier dirige, sous l'autorité du président du tribunal et sous la surveillance du ministère public, l'ensemble des services du greffe.
Il assure la tenue des différents registres prévus par les textes en vigueur et tient à jour les dossiers du tribunal. Il met en forme les décisions prises et motivées par les juges.
Il est dépositaire des minutes et archives dont il assure la conservation. Il délivre les expéditions et copies et a la garde des scellés et de toutes sommes déposées au greffe.
Il dresse les actes de greffe et procède aux formalités pour lesquelles compétence lui est attribuée.
EN court registry decision
http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d4899c50-52f0-...
http://www.regodobrenja.net/print_po.php?id=95&jezik=3&tip=
http://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/rights-...
A court registry decision is a decision taken by the judge only after the court session as a final judgment. The party to the proceedings can obtain
these decisions in writing from the court registry, or they can be communicated by mail by request.
Also possible:
court registry action
http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/id/lc/statreg/47_338_200...
https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Chakib Roula
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| disagree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Sorry to seem harsh. Your references are helpful, exc. the Europa.eu one. It leads one to believe the Registrar makes deicsions. That is not the case. The Europa site is a translated version and erroneous in this instance.
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No problem at all, Nikki. If I'm off, I'm off and criticism is fine. Whoever has the right knowledge gets the KudoZ points, and the asker has the final say in the end. :)
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B D Finch
: It is wrong to assume equivalence between the French and UK or other common-law court systems. In England and Wales, registrars have responsibility for managing court registries AND for hearing some civil cases, but the *registries* do NOT make decisions.
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OK. The Europa.eu link was misleading, then, as Nikki Scott pointed out above. And so were the other two links (lexology and regodobrenja). Tough one!
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AllegroTrans
: I do not think the Court Registry/Office makes decisions per se; it merely carries out routine procedures
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