Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
ocupar (en este sentido)
English translation:
necesitar
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Candace Holt Ryan
Aug 25, 2016 21:26
7 yrs ago
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Spanish term
ocupar (en este sentido)
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
I'm not certain of the meaning of the verb "ocupar" in this phrase. The Spanish is from Mexico.
...(el señor) solicitó permisos para extraer piedra para la construcción de la casa, ya que ocupaba permiso,...
Gracias de antemano.
...(el señor) solicitó permisos para extraer piedra para la construcción de la casa, ya que ocupaba permiso,...
Gracias de antemano.
Proposed translations
(English)
5 +4 | necesitar | Erika Ramos De Urquidi |
4 +1 | as he had already obtained permission to etc. | David Hollywood |
4 | require | eski |
5 -1 | [he] was making use of | Rosa Paredes |
4 | hold/have | Mariana Serio |
Proposed translations
+4
20 mins
Selected
necesitar
In Mexico, the word ocupar can be used as a synonym for necesitar. It is a regionalism and a very colloquial term.
So, in other words, what they are saying is: "...ya que necesitaba permiso"
So, in other words, what they are saying is: "...ya que necesitaba permiso"
Example sentence:
Ocupo ir a la farmacia.
Reference:
http://udep.edu.pe/castellanoactual/duda-resuelta-son-sinonimos-ocupar-y-necesitar/
http://cvc.cervantes.es/foros/leer_asunto1.asp?vCodigo=47422
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Adrian MM. (X)
: yes, this type of semantic trap in Mexico is an *occupational* hazard.
6 mins
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agree |
Robert Carter
: In all my time here I'd never heard it used like this before, but my wife and my daughter both confirmed that it's quite common. Odd.
37 mins
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agree |
AllegroTrans
: I have no knowledge of Spanish usage in Mexico, but this is the only logical meaning when you look at the sentence
1 hr
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disagree |
Rosa Paredes
: Nope. He already has the permit. He requested permission (as in 'may I'). he did so because he was making use of his permit.
4 hrs
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agree |
lorenab23
: Quite common, ocupar = need (years of experience interpreting in the US for people from Mexico). The man requested permits since he needed them.
6 hrs
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agree |
Andy Watkinson
: I'm agreeing not out of familiarity with Mexican Spanish but with common sense.
6 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Agradezco un montón su ayuda."
36 mins
require
Removing the stone required a permit:
Permits...Do I Need One? Residential building, remodeling, additions ...
www.weknowcodes.com/residential/do-i-need-a-permit.php
Permit and Inspections Process for Residential Buildings ... enlarge, alter, repair, remove, convert or replace an electrical, gas, mechanical or plumbing ... (c) A permit is not required for the exceptions listed in § 403.1(b) (relating to scope) and ...
When is a Building Permit Not Required? - Toronto Building - Services ...
www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid...vgnextchannel...
The following are examples of work which do not require a building permit and ... than brick or stone veneer;; Adding or replacing insulation;; The replacement of ...
[PDF]1 RCNY §101-15 - NYC.gov
www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/rules/1_RCNY_101-14.pdf
and therefore may be exempt from the permit requirements of the New York city .... Removal and replacement of exterior stone or terra cotta ornamentation with ...
Building Permits: When a Permit Is Required and When It's Not - Houzz
www.houzz.com/.../list/building-permits-when-a-permit-is-re...
Mar 3, 2015 - A permit is required for electrical modifications, plumbing work (even replacing that rusty old water heater), window modifications that enlarge ...
:))
Permits...Do I Need One? Residential building, remodeling, additions ...
www.weknowcodes.com/residential/do-i-need-a-permit.php
Permit and Inspections Process for Residential Buildings ... enlarge, alter, repair, remove, convert or replace an electrical, gas, mechanical or plumbing ... (c) A permit is not required for the exceptions listed in § 403.1(b) (relating to scope) and ...
When is a Building Permit Not Required? - Toronto Building - Services ...
www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid...vgnextchannel...
The following are examples of work which do not require a building permit and ... than brick or stone veneer;; Adding or replacing insulation;; The replacement of ...
[PDF]1 RCNY §101-15 - NYC.gov
www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/rules/1_RCNY_101-14.pdf
and therefore may be exempt from the permit requirements of the New York city .... Removal and replacement of exterior stone or terra cotta ornamentation with ...
Building Permits: When a Permit Is Required and When It's Not - Houzz
www.houzz.com/.../list/building-permits-when-a-permit-is-re...
Mar 3, 2015 - A permit is required for electrical modifications, plumbing work (even replacing that rusty old water heater), window modifications that enlarge ...
:))
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: exactly- need, require, necessitate etc.
1 hr
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Hi AllegroTrans: thanks for your confirmation. :))
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disagree |
Rosa Paredes
: Please see explanation.
3 hrs
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Thanks for your comment, Rosa: although I believe that "ya que" means "because" in Mexico and not "already". Saludos:)
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+1
2 hrs
as he had already obtained permission to etc.
I would say
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Rosa Paredes
: Absolutely! He requested permission (as in 'may I'); he did so because he was making use of his permit.
1 hr
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thank you Rosa :)
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-1
4 hrs
[he] was making use of
Believe it or not, the fact that it does not work in Mexico does not amount to much.
The answers provided by David Hollywwod and Mariana Serio (with 2 disagree) are both perfectly correct takes on this expression which means to make use of something that you already have, so 'require' does not work here nor does 'necesitar'.
The answers provided by David Hollywwod and Mariana Serio (with 2 disagree) are both perfectly correct takes on this expression which means to make use of something that you already have, so 'require' does not work here nor does 'necesitar'.
Peer comment(s):
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Robert Carter
: Hi Rosa, I believe you are quite wrong about this, where does the word "already" come into it?
14 hrs
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3 mins
hold/have
...since he held/had a permit.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-08-26 03:13:45 GMT)
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What I understand when I read this sentence is that the man asked for permission to extract rock because he already had a permit to do so. The text seems to appear in a formal context so I don't think Mexican slang is used here.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-08-26 03:13:45 GMT)
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What I understand when I read this sentence is that the man asked for permission to extract rock because he already had a permit to do so. The text seems to appear in a formal context so I don't think Mexican slang is used here.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Erika Ramos De Urquidi
: In some regions in Mexico, ocupar means necesitar. Please see my answer below.
17 mins
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disagree |
AllegroTrans
: doesn't work in this sentence
1 hr
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agree |
Rosa Paredes
: This is a correct answer.
4 hrs
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Thank you for your support. I really don't see how "necesitar" would make sense here.
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agree |
Clarkalo
16 hrs
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Discussion
Could those who support the idea that when you have a permit to do something, you then need to ask for permission to do it supply any reasoning for this?